I thought this was another thread about Notre Dame.
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“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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Originally posted by LA Ute View PostHaven't heard much in response to this question . . . .
Ummmmm . . . . . . . . . . yes?
These threads have lives of their own. Some thrive, others die quickly.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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The logic is sound. I love how it gets ALUF's panties in a wad too.
I don't think God gives a rat's backside about the outcome of football games ... but believing Mormon HAVE to believe that the Lord owns BYU. Thus it is "his" University, just like my car is "FM's car", etc."It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."Comment
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Oh brother.Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
Do you refer to the Deseret News as the Lord's Newspaper? How about KSL-TV as the Lord's TV station?
It kind of bugs me that the Lord's Radio Station runs the Sean Hannity show every weekday.
Did you know that the Lord's Hotel used to serve alcohol? Weird, eh?
Even more weird is that the Lord's Hotel used to not allow blacks to stay there. Hmmm....."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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I don't refer to them that way, no. But it is a technically accurate description.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post"It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."Comment
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A couple of questions:
1) Is this a common belief among church members or supporters of BYU?
2) As Ute Fans, does this bother you, or is it just one of those things that doesn't bother you but is something about which you feel compelled talk?
I'll answer #1 according to my experience. No. Undoubtedly someone out there draws a tight line between Lord's Church = Lord's University, but I honestly cannot recall anyone ever seriously making the argument. Lots of people may draw a tight line between The Church and BYU, which is probably a much easier case to make. But that shouldn't be mistaken for the former.Last edited by myboynoah; 12-07-2009, 12:58 AM.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."Comment
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Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach FinstockComment
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You know now that I think about, for endowed members anyway, it's all His anway. So it's really NOT "FM's car". It's the Lord's Car. I think we should all start referring to our things that way. The Lord's Car, the Lord's sandwich, the Lord's TV, etc."It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."Comment
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I've seen my share of bumper stickers in the south saying as much.Originally posted by FMCoug View Post"Nobody listens to Turtle."-TurtlesigpicComment
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Oh I think it is the Lord's University Jeff just as missionary cars are the Lord's cars. In fact, BYU is the missionary car of Universities.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostComment
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All I am saying is this: When I was a BYU student (I enjoyed my time there very much) it made me nervous to hear the phrase "The Lord's University" bandied about. I heard Nibley say at the time that being such a place (the Lord's university) should be a goal, just like being a Zion society should be everyone's goal. Other BYU administrators of the time made the same comment. That always made sense to me. So yes, it does rankle when people toss that term out in a jingoistic way. It's not a rivalry thing, although the term is more nettlesome when used in that context. That's why I still wonder if that YouTube video is serious, or just a bit of "video trolling." I don't think the great majority of BYU fans see their athletic program that way.Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
As far as whether any of the Ute fans here "feel compelled to talk" about this, we are not the ones who made the video, and a BYU fan is the one who posted it here. I.e., we didn't bring it up.Last edited by LA Ute; 12-07-2009, 07:13 AM.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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Maybe you haven't had a lesson on tithing recently. Everything we have comes from God. Therefore, God owns everything -- including the U of U.Originally posted by FMCoug View PostCol. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."Comment
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This update brought to you courtesy of Austin Collie.Originally posted by USS Utah View PostComment
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I was joking with the we're more righteous than you thread last week, but I don't quite understand both the frustrated ALUF and the liberal/hip BYU fan that refuses to acknowledge a God/church/BYU connection.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
There seems to me quite a difference between church own businesses like you mention here that are resource producing and church owned not-for-profits that are resource using and used by the church to further its causes. The latter group would include BYU, church owned media (as in the types producing church materials not the commercial operations) and PR operations, Tabernacle choir, etc.
The church pumps a $500M tithing money into BYU.Comment
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