Honesty test for BYU fans

[Flystripper]

Regardless, I'm talking about past BYU schedules versus current ones and whether or not there has been an effort to water current schedules down compared to past schedules.




Army was removed as an OOC opponent a year or two ago. Arizona State and Washington have ducked out of series against us, not vice versa. Other schools (eg. Nebraska) believe they are worthy of 2 for 1s, which leaves us in the lurch with trying to get quality, balanced OOC schedules.

So you are in the camp that believes that the schedule it is as good as it can be. OK. I don't believe it, but OK.

[UtahDan]

This coming from a poster who seemed to many posters mentally unstable as a result of Saturday's game and Hall's remarks.

You have parsed your words carefully, but really, why make this reference?

[Indy Coug]

Until BYU is in a BCS conference playing 2 games against BCS conference opponents is pretty weak. Yes 2 BCS games is what BYU has historically done and I have not been bitching about having only 2 games. I did bitch as loud as I could when NIU was added and there was talk about how "dumbing down" was what BYU needed to do. However, lets not pretend that playing 2 BCS teams per year is a very difficult schedule or even a very good one for that matter.

Regardless, I'm talking about past BYU schedules versus current ones and whether or not there has been an effort to water current schedules down compared to past schedules.

WHen did we schedule Army? If it was in 2012 and 2013 we currently have one BCS game on the schedule for those years combined. In 2012 we play Washington and that is it. I know these games are a couple of years away so 2013 can be fixed, but the 2012 schedule will only have one BCS team on it if Army was added in that year.

2012 has one BCS team
2013 has no BCS teams

Army was removed as an OOC opponent a year or two ago. Arizona State and Washington have ducked out of series against us, not vice versa. Other schools (eg. Nebraska) believe they are worthy of 2 for 1s, which leaves us in the lurch with trying to get quality, balanced OOC schedules.

[Flystripper]

Count of BYU BCS opponents by year

Season	Count
2008	3
2007	3
2006	3
2005	3
2004	3
2003	4

number of BCS games played by all teams in BCS conferences

Pac 10 - at least 9 gams
Big 12 - at least 8 games
Big 10 - at least 8 games
SEC - at least 8 games
ACC - at least 8 games
Big East - at least 7 games

Until BYU is in a BCS conference playing 2 games against BCS conference opponents is pretty weak. Yes 2 BCS games is what BYU has historically done and I have not been bitching about having only 2 games. I did bitch as loud as I could when NIU was added and there was talk about how "dumbing down" was what BYU needed to do. However, lets not pretend that playing 2 BCS teams per year is a very difficult schedule or even a very good one for that matter.

WHen did we schedule Army? If it was in 2012 and 2013 we currently have one BCS game on the schedule for those years combined. In 2012 we play Washington and that is it. I know these games are a couple of years away so 2013 can be fixed, but the 2012 schedule will only have one BCS team on it if Army was added in that year.

2012 has one BCS team
2013 has no BCS teams

[Indy Coug]

Lol, your question has gone from dumbed down to "demonstrably" dumbed down.

Don't let adverbs get in the way of actually answering the question.

[Indy Coug]

Lol, your question has gone from dumbed down to "demonstrably" dumbed down. Nice fall back to defend your hapless position.

Did Bronco not say at one time they needed to dumb down the schedule and then scheduled NIU. He didn't follow through going that route. We are happy, so should you be.

What makes you think I'm not happy? I guarantee you I've been happier about our 10-2 and 13th ranked season more than most of the miserable bastards on CB, CUF and TBS.

[Flystripper]

Count of BYU BCS opponents by year

Season	Count
2008	3
2007	3
2006	3
2005	3
2004	3
2003	4

you counting bowl games? Bowl games are not scheduled.

[DU Ute]

Count of BYU BCS opponents by year

Season	Count
2008	3
2007	3
2006	3
2005	3
2004	3
2003	4

Does BYU schedule their bowl games in advance, or are you including Utah as a BCS school?

[byu71]

OK, you've stated what you want, but what I'm looking for is some point of reference to show that BYU's schedule has been demonstrably "dumbed down".

Lol, your question has gone from dumbed down to "demonstrably" dumbed down. Nice fall back to defend your hapless position.

Did Bronco not say at one time they needed to dumb down the schedule and then scheduled NIU. He didn't follow through going that route. We are happy, so should you be.

[Indy Coug]

Count of BYU BCS opponents by year

Season	Count
2008	3
2007	3
2006	3
2005	3
2004	3
2003	4

[Indy Coug]

If there are less than 2 OOC BCS teams on future schedules then it has been dumbed down. Personally I want at least 3 OOC BCS teams but BYU never does that.

OK, you've stated what you want, but what I'm looking for is some point of reference to show that BYU's schedule has been demonstrably "dumbed down".

[byu71]

If there are less than 2 OOC BCS teams on future schedules then it has been dumbed down. Personally I want at least 3 OOC BCS teams but BYU never does that.

I fear they may not worry about schedules because they think the "real true fans" think like this guy.

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=4083953

[Flystripper]

What has BYU's schedule been dumbed down from? At what lofty level did BYU's schedule once reside that it no longer does?

If there are less than 2 OOC BCS teams on future schedules then it has been dumbed down. Personally I want at least 3 OOC BCS teams but BYU never does that.

[Flystripper]

My hatred for the Honor Code knows no bounds.

+1.

[Fiyero]

Is this your best smack? Your costliest diadem?

I'll count it, but its still dross and refuse.

What do you expect from someone who only cites overturned authority? There's no time to Shepardize when No Man Knows My History is calling.