My All-MWC predictions

[Fiyero]

Feel free to call me out if I'm wrong, but does anyone else get the feeling that the voters are going out of their way to keep a BYU player from winning OPOY?

John Beck and Luke Staley won it. That's 2 of the 10.

[cougjunkie]

Feel free to call me out if I'm wrong, but does anyone else get the feeling that the voters are going out of their way to keep a BYU player from winning OPOY?

Seems a bit weird.

Since 2002 the only time a BYU player has won it was John Beck in 2006.

Previous winners:

2003- Bradlee Van Pelt
BYU nominee: ummmm....nobody Rey Braithwaite had 800 yards rushing

2004- Alex Smith
BYU nominee: John Beck, 2500 yards and 15 tds, Todd Watkins 1000 yards receiving and 8 tds. (Smith deserved it)

2005- Dontrelle Moore (1298 rushing yards, 14 tds, 31 receptions 371 yards)
BYU nominee: Curtis Brown 1173 rushing yards, 14 tds, 53 reception 454 yards), John Beck (3700 passing yards, 27 tds)

2006: John Beck

2007: Chad Hall (1415 rushing yards, 488 receiving yards 15 total tds)
BYU nominee: Harvey Unga (1214 rushing, 17 total tds, 655 receiving yards)
Max Hall: (3848 yards and 26 tds)

2008: Brian Johnson (2972 yards, 27 tds, 149 pass efficiency)
BYU nominees: Max Hall (3958 yards, 35 tds, 156 pass efficiency)
Harvey Unga: (1248 yards rushing, 309 receiving 15 total tds)
Austin Collie: (106 receptions, 1548 receving yards, 15 tds)

2009: Andy Dalton (2484 passing yards, 24 tds, 522 rushing yars, 2 tds, 156 pass efficiency)
BYU nominees: Max Hall (3,368 yards, 39 tds, 110 rushing yards, 4 tds, 161 pass efficiency)

[Commando]

also, that 1st team seems a bit Ute- heavy. 6 players? Really?

[TheBYUGuy]

2008: Brian Johnson (2972 yards, 27 tds, 149 pass efficiency)
BYU nominees: Max Hall (3958 yards, 35 tds, 156 pass efficiency)
Harvey Unga: (1248 yards rushing, 309 receiving 15 total tds)

Don't forget Austin Collie who led the nation in receiving and re-wrote the MWC record books.

[Hot Lunch]

also, that 1st team seems a bit Ute- heavy. 6 players? Really?

I don't think you can say that any of those 6 don't deserve to be on there.

[cougjunkie]

Don't forget Austin Collie who led the nation in receiving and re-wrote the MWC record books.

I had Collie in mind and completely spaced adding him.

[MartyFunkhouser]

also, that 1st team seems a bit Ute- heavy. 6 players? Really?

Which Ute players that made 1st team didn't deserve it?

[Donuthole]

Feel free to call me out if I'm wrong, but does anyone else get the feeling that the voters are going out of their way to keep a BYU player from winning OPOY?

Yeah, that is a bit paranoid, IMO. Part of BYU's problem is that in several of the years when they have a legit candidate, they have 2 (and sometimes 3) players stealing votes from each other. (2008: Collie, Unga, Hall--2007: Unga and Hall).

Dalton deserved it this year. He was the best offensive player in the conference, and he was on the best team in the conference.

[TheBYUGuy]

Yeah, that is a bit paranoid, IMO. Part of BYU's problem is that in several of the years when they have a legit candidate, they have 2 (and sometimes 3) players stealing votes from each other. (2008: Collie, Unga, Hall--2007: Unga and Hall).

Dalton deserved it this year. He was the best offensive player in the conference, and he was on the best team in the conference.

I agree that Dalton deserved it this year. But I don't know how someone besides SU could honestly make the argument that Collie shouldn't have won in 2008 and Hall (Max, not Chad) shouldn't have won in 2007, now that we know you don't have to be a senior to win.

[SeattleUte]

So it's official. The past three years have told us the following about the OPOY award:

1. Team record and standings don't matter as long as we give the award to a senior. (2007)
2. The best player in the conference shouldn't get it if he isn't a senior. (2008)
3. The award doesn't have to be given to a senior. Record and team accomplishment matter. (2009)

In other words, there are no set criteria for winning the award.

usually the OPOY award goes to the best offensive player on the best team. Why does that surprise you?

[cougjunkie]

usually the OPOY award goes to the best offensive player on the best team. Why does that surprise you?

Dontrelle Moore and Chad Hall say otherwise.

[SeattleUte]

Dontrelle Moore and Chad Hall say otherwise.

So am I correct that Max Hall was never all-MWC?

[DrumNFeather]

I would think Darryl Washington would get it over Tank Carder in terms of TCU players.

Nailed it! Yesssssssss!

[cougjunkie]

So am I correct that Max Hall was never all-MWC?

He was All-MWC three times. 1st team once and 2nd team twice. He was never the Offensive Player of the year. So no you are not correct.

[TheBYUGuy]

Don't forget Austin Collie who led the nation in receiving and re-wrote the MWC record books.

Sorry, back to the conspiracy theory. You have a guy who led the entire NCAA in receiving yards (and per game receiving yards), picked up 15 TDs in the process, went over 100 yards against every team in the conference, and yet Collie was not a unanimous selection for 1st team wide receiver.

In other words, there were media members who claimed there were at least TWO MWC receivers better than Collie in 2008*. That doesn't pass the smell test for me.



*The 2nd best receiver statistically had 500 fewer receiving yards and 9 fewer touchdowns. The 3rd best had 550 fewer yards and 10 fewer touchdowns. Neither of them were in the ballpark of 11 consecutive games with 100+ yards receiving.