I'm so tired of this topic

[New Mexican Disaster]

You are right, saying zero is over stated. They aren't going to bring in a school with laughable academics. There are a couple of schools that have really good academics that will be considered.

When the group of schools that have good academics have been decided on and are going to be being considered for PAC 10 expansion, it is then that the talks will be 100% about sports and sports revenue and not about academics.

BYU has about 90 % of the package but I think we are a bit icky to the Pac-10 and the Sunday play issue is a problem. Much less of a problem in the Big 12. Problem is that there seems to be little reason for Colorado to uproot. Utah has about 70% of the package and is not too icky to the Pac-10. If it ever comes down to it they will probably get invited to the ball.

[LA Ute]

BYU has about 90 % of the package but I think we are a bit icky to the Pac-10 and the Sunday play issue is a problem. Much less of a problem in the Big 12. Problem is that there seems to be little reason for Colorado to uproot. Utah has about 70% of the package and is not too icky to the Pac-10. If it ever comes down to it they will probably get invited to the ball.

Not sure I agree with the 90%-70% figure, but then again, none of us (least of all yours truly) knows anything. That's oddly comforting.

[New Mexican Disaster]

Not sure I agree with the 90%-70% figure, but then again, none of us (least of all yours truly) knows anything. That's oddly comforting.

I didn't figure that most Utes would agree with my 90-70 split. Does it help that I came up with that number because I attribute half of the difference to tithing payments?

[LA Ute]

Does it help that I came up with that number because I attribute half of the difference to tithing payments?

No. The important thing is for you to know that I forgive you.

[Hallelujah]

They might hate BYU, but they'll love our grubby Mormon money!

BYU will never be in the PAC-10. Period. Utah has a much better chance. If the Stanford AD really meant what he said, neither Utah or BYU will see the light of day in the PAC-10. Having said that, I don't believe the AD 100%.

[ERCougar]

The thing I would enjoy about the PAC-10 is cool road venues and good competition. It does not help our BCS chances. Right now, we should go to a BCS game 1 in every 3-4 years (on average). I don't see us doing that in the PAC 10.

[ERCougar]

Also, there's the little issue of the MWC pushing its way into the BCS. If the PAC-10 could pick off one of the top MWC teams, they might be able to keep the MWC out. But then the MWC could add BSU and still likely get in. But if the Big XII took BYU to replace Colorado, that'd be two of the top three MWC teams out of the equation, and even with BSU (& TCU), the MWC's case would be pretty weak. So expansion would not only add revenue for the PAC-10, it would also be part of a strategy that would obviate the BCS from splitting it's money 7-ways instead of 6. And both BYU and Utah would make it to BCS leagues...

This is an interesting idea. However, why would the BCS be obligated to add a 7th conference? I see them either replacing one of the conferences (per the re-evaluation mechanism), thus leaving it still split 6 ways, or just ignoring the MWC altogether, leaving the current system intact and arguing that the 4 good non-BCS teams already have access to BCS bowls (1 in 4 access...not bad).

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

If the Jerry Jones can get the Cotton Bowl into the BCS, would BYU and Utah not be better served to add BSU and try to get the MWC one of the new autobids?

[beelzebabette]

If the Jerry Jones can get the Cotton Bowl into the BCS, would BYU and Utah not be better served to add BSU and try to get the MWC one of the new autobids?

If your first condition's met, I'd rather see them try to get an autobid without adding BSU. There may be a little pressure to do it, but I'm hoping it wouldn't be a necessity.

[statman]

This is an interesting idea. However, why would the BCS be obligated to add a 7th conference? I see them either replacing one of the conferences (per the re-evaluation mechanism), thus leaving it still split 6 ways, or just ignoring the MWC altogether, leaving the current system intact and arguing that the 4 good non-BCS teams already have access to BCS bowls (1 in 4 access...not bad).

One word - Lawsuits.

You think the Big (L)East is going to leave the BCS and its $$$ without a fight? The problem for the BCS is, if it's involved in a lawsuit, ANY lawsuit, they're risking that a judge might just blow the whole thing up because the organization is anti-competitive on its face.

The BCS can't afford to let a lawsuit go to court. They'd add a 7th league before they allowed such a crap shoot to take place.

The other damning issue for the BCS is that in the hearings that the Senate held this summer, they had to actually spell-out the criteria used to evaluate a league's worthiness to be in the BCS. Prior to this, they've been very evasive about what actually lets a league in - "well, the committee evaluates the situation and..." Not any more. they actually listed criteria - and did so in front of the Senate.

[Mr Incredible]

I can't link to cougarboard anymore. It takes forever to load and load and then times out. maybe that is a sign?

I have the same problem.

[statman]

And this could be part of what is now making the PAC-10 more amenable to expansion:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8296314

They don't want lawsuits...

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

And this could be part of what is now making the PAC-10 more amenable to expansion:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8296314

They don't want lawsuits...

I assume this Mark Shirtless guy is a Republican? So do people like exUtelujah and Lingo support this Republican pushing away from capitalism towards socialism?

[falafel]

I assume this Mark Shirtless guy is a Republican? So do people like exUtelujah and Lingo support this Republican pushing away from capitalism towards socialism?

Just let us into your club!!!

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Just let us into your club!!!

The free market doesn't want that. Unless you voted for socialism and Obama then you shouldn't either.