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"More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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At the Fiesta in 2004, the stadium was full of Utah fans. Psychologically and financially, that's just an easier bowl for Utah fans (and BYU fans) to attend. It's just tougher to get a lot of people from the Mountain West (and the West generally) to New Orleans over the New year weekend.
Maybe I am a case in point. I am a diehard Ute fan, a season ticket holder at RES who doesn't even live in Utah, who has been to lots of bowl games, the Final Four in 1998, the Fiesta in 2004, etc. Even I did not really want to go to the Sugar, because N.O. is a big trip - whether from L.A. or SLC. The tickets are $135 each, and airfares are expensive during the holidays. Then there's the hotel. And the economy has most people looking a little harder at discretionary ependitures, etc. With all that in mind, it just seemed easier to watch the game on TV.
But my two sons begged effectively and were willing to mortgage their futures if they could go. It wasn't hard to convince me. So the three of us will be in N.O. My wife think I am a lovable idiot for making this trip, but that is nothing new. My sons and I will always remember it, I hope happily.
BTW, I think BYU has a slight advantage in this regard because of the geographic dispersal of Church members -- many of who have no connection to BYU other than their membership, but they still go to games when BYU is in town. That's only a slight advantage, I'm afraid, because most Mormon families are not inclined to spend the kind of money and time necessary to attend a BCS bowl game in a town like New Orleans. Just my opinion based on a lengthening lifetime as a "Mo."“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Close. It's our controversial, $10 million dollar library.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI meant my other wife here in OC.
That pic looks like it was taken in front of an LDS chapel.
I know $10 million is chump change for a big city library, but this place is about the size of Park City, Utah (maybe smaller; I haven't been to Summit County in awhile).
Controversial because a significant portion of the county's social programs are underfunded while the cash-rich borough spends on a library that is literally one block from PSU's academic library (that is open to the local public and has a variety of fiction, children's, media, etc. resources).
State College liberals are all talk."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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Good for you. Sounds like a great time.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostAt the Fiesta in 2004, the stadium was full of Utah fans. Psychologically and financially, that's just an easier bowl for Utah fans (and BYU fans) to attend. It's just tougher to get a lot of people from the Mountain West (and the West generally) to New Orleans over the New year weekend.
Maybe I am a case in point. I am a diehard Ute fan, a season ticket holder at RES who doesn't even live in Utah, who has been to lots of bowl games, the Final Four in 1998, the Fiesta in 2004, etc. Even I did not really want to go to the Sugar, because N.O. is a big trip - whether from L.A. or SLC. The tickets are $135 each, and airfares are expensive during the holidays. Then there's the hotel. And the economy has most people looking a little harder at discretionary ependitures, etc. With all that in mind, it just seemed easier to watch the game on TV.
But my two sons begged effectively and were willing to mortgage their futures if they could go. It wasn't hard to convince me. So the three of us will be in N.O. My wife think I am a lovable idiot for making this trip, but that is nothing new. My sons and I will always remember it, I hope happily.
BTW, I think BYU has a slight advantage in this regard because of the geographic dispersal of Church members -- many of who have no connection to BYU other than their membership, but they still go to games when BYU is in town. That's only a slight advantage, I'm afraid, because most Mormon families are not inclined to spend the kind of money and time necessary to attend a BCS bowl game in a town like New Orleans. Just my opinion based on a lengthening lifetime as a "Mo."
I wonder if BYU's advantage isn't enhanced by it's more geographically diverse studentbody as well. People are likely to return "home" after college.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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I think you are right. I forgot to mention that. But whatever our place of residence, we Mormons tend to be frugal folks. (Kinda goes with the large families.)Originally posted by myboynoah View PostGood for you. Sounds like a great time.
I wonder if BYU's advantage isn't enhanced by it's more geographically diverse studentbody as well. People are likely to return "home" after college.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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My understanding is that ticket sales are down to pretty much every BCS game, especially the Orange Bowl.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostI think this is the reason that the BCS bowls don't like non-BCS conference teams. And don't like lower tier BCS conference teams. Poor ticket sales means lower attendance.
Allegedly, Bama fans are gobbling up the public tickets. I wonder if the U will even have 15K fans there?"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Are you going to NO? You can stay at our place on the way to and on the back to save money, but only if you do that David Letterman thing for the kids.Originally posted by Brian View PostWhen all else fails, attendance smack.
go wild cats.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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No doubt. LDS culture is a distillation of a socially consevative element of society. LDS culture is almost wholly derivative.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostI think you are right. I forgot to mention that. But whatever our place of residence, we Mormons tend to be frugal folks. (Kinda goes with the large families.)Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Thanks for the offer.Originally posted by myboynoah View PostAre you going to NO? You can stay at our place on the way to and on the back to save money, but only if you do that David Letterman thing for the kids.
But, we can't make it. I already bought plane tickets to SLC from 12/26 to 1/4.I intend to live forever.
So far, so good.
--Steven Wright
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$135?! I was telling danimal we should go, but not for $135 a pop. We are only 3 hours from Nawlins... If anyone going needs a place to stay, let me know.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostAt the Fiesta in 2004, the stadium was full of Utah fans. Psychologically and financially, that's just an easier bowl for Utah fans (and BYU fans) to attend. It's just tougher to get a lot of people from the Mountain West (and the West generally) to New Orleans over the New year weekend.
Maybe I am a case in point. I am a diehard Ute fan, a season ticket holder at RES who doesn't even live in Utah, who has been to lots of bowl games, the Final Four in 1998, the Fiesta in 2004, etc. Even I did not really want to go to the Sugar, because N.O. is a big trip - whether from L.A. or SLC. The tickets are $135 each, and airfares are expensive during the holidays. Then there's the hotel. And the economy has most people looking a little harder at discretionary ependitures, etc. With all that in mind, it just seemed easier to watch the game on TV.
But my two sons begged effectively and were willing to mortgage their futures if they could go. It wasn't hard to convince me. So the three of us will be in N.O. My wife think I am a lovable idiot for making this trip, but that is nothing new. My sons and I will always remember it, I hope happily.
BTW, I think BYU has a slight advantage in this regard because of the geographic dispersal of Church members -- many of who have no connection to BYU other than their membership, but they still go to games when BYU is in town. That's only a slight advantage, I'm afraid, because most Mormon families are not inclined to spend the kind of money and time necessary to attend a BCS bowl game in a town like New Orleans. Just my opinion based on a lengthening lifetime as a "Mo."What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
-Teenage Dirtbag
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This admonition intrigues me, as it is either missing a comma or has one space too many. I trust you meant "Go wild, cats!", although it's unclear if this is a reference to BYU's offense, or to CUF'ers as they overindulge at the Bellagio Buffet. In either case, we accept your good wishes. And to you, go crimson!Originally posted by Brian View Postgo wild cats.
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