As much as I've hated the soap opera

[Donuthole]

I'd like to point out that Soccermom was being a vicious sassy troll in this thread. she was hiding in the reeds, laying low for weeks, until Favre played in GB. Seconds after, she springs her trap on donutehole. Burn!

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Yeah, I was hoping she'd pop in last week after Farve's turnovers lead to 14 4th Q points against the Steelers, but she was nowhere to be seen.

[TripletDaddy]

Yeah, I was hoping she'd pop in last week after Farve's turnovers lead to 14 4th Q points against the Steelers, but she was nowhere to be seen.

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Sorry, soccermom, just being honest!

[JohnnyLingo]

Yeah, I was hoping she'd pop in last week after Farve's turnovers lead to 14 4th Q points against the Steelers, but she was nowhere to be seen.

Yeah, not showing up when you have some crow to eat is pretty weak.

[Soccermom]

Yeah, I was hoping she'd pop in last week after Farve's turnovers lead to 14 4th Q points against the Steelers, but she was nowhere to be seen.

So he had a fumble and an interception in a game against the Steelers. I'd be worried if he did that against the Lions perhaps, but the Steelers are tough. That off day doesn't concern me. And, I would have been more than happy to comment last week, but didn't notice a thread. Where did you post about it? I did a brief search and found nothing. Or, did you expect me to react like those on CB and start a new thread bashing my favorite QB after one bad game?

[TripletDaddy]

So he had a fumble and an interception in a game against the Steelers. I'd be worried if he did that against the Lions perhaps, but the Steelers are tough. That off day doesn't concern me. And, I would have been more than happy to comment last week, but didn't notice a thread. Where did you post about it? I did a brief search and found nothing. Or, did you expect me to react like those on CB and start a new thread bashing my favorite QB after one bad game?

donute's chances in this thread: :flush:

[CJF]

It has only been 7 weeks since my prediction, silly. I didn't say anything about "week 8". Of course, Minny has a bye next week, so I'm not sure I'll have much to gloat about then.

That makes more sense. As I was typing out my response I was wondering what trap I was walking into. You very seldom miss something. Especially that easy.

[Donuthole]

[Maximus]

Well despite that INT, Favre is a great QB, more than half the NFL teams would have loved to have him this year.

[Soccermom]

Gloating that Favre only made it to the NFC Conference Championship Game as a 40 year old who was hit over 11 times, injured, and still almost won the game despite 4 fumbles by teammates in addition to his interceptions? And, add to that the fact that the loss really wasn't on Favre. When he threw that last interception, it was third and long, and an incomplete pass or no gain would have meant a 56 yard field goal attempt. Favre never had a chance to answer back in OT because of the stupid sudden death overtime rule.

I personally like his high risk high reward mentality. The guy is tough as nails and I am impressed that the 40 year old QB fought on despite all the hard hits and injury. And, if anyone can relate to missing the Super Bowl because of an interception, it is Favre.

[Donuthole]

Gloating that Favre only made it to the NFC Conference Championship Game as a 40 year old who was hit over 11 times, injured, and still almost won the game despite 4 fumbles by teammates in addition to his interceptions? And, add to that the fact that the loss really wasn't on Favre. When he threw that last interception, it was third and long, and an incomplete pass or no gain would have meant a 56 yard field goal attempt. Favre never had a chance to answer back in OT because of the stupid sudden death overtime rule.

I personally like his high risk high reward mentality. The guy is tough as nails and I am impressed that the 40 year old QB fought on despite all the hard hits and injury. And, if anyone can relate to missing the Super Bowl because of an interception, it is Favre.

Favre did nothing a rookie out of USC didn't do. In fact, that rookie out of USC took the team Favre couldn't get into the playoffs and got them to the AFC championship.

This year Favre took over a playoff team with a top 5 defense and the top RB in the game, and got them two games further than last season, before ending the season with a ridiculously dumb mistake. Stick Favre on the Saints or the Colts, and they are a one-and done playoff team. Unlike Manning or Brees, Favre is not the guy who makes everybody around him better. He is not the guy whose mentality, work ethic, and dedication changes the entire culture of a franchise. Perfect example: instead of picking a team and showing up for mini camp and training camp to maximize his practice time with his coaches, coordinators, and teammates, Favre continually chooses to sit back and relax until just before the season begins. Contrast that to Manning and Brees, who spend huge chunks of their offseason and preseason practicing with NFL no-names like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Lance Moore and Robert Meacham to ensure they are on the same page as soon as the season begins.

What I find funny is that Minnesota had (has) all the pieces in place, and just needed a guy who could come in and not lose games for them. Instead, they brought in the biggest risk-reward QB of all time. And what did he do? He put his risk-reward tendencies on hold and did a great job of not losing games for most of the season. But ultimately his gun-slinging ways got the best of him, and, in the end, they got the best of the Vikings, too.

[dabrockster]

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[Donuthole]

Gregg Easterbrook shares my sentiments, only he expresses them much more eloquoently.

Hamartia. The "tragic flaw" described by Aristotle: A leader cannot control his own inner shortcoming, which causes him to achieve the reverse of what he desired. In "Antigone," the king, Creon, tells himself he is acting in the interest of the city, when actually he is acting to glorify his own ego -- this hamartia destroys him. Brett Favre comes up a bit short of a character in ancient Thebes, but on Sunday he was brought low by hamartia all the same. It was not enough for Favre's team to reach the Super Bowl -- he had to get the credit. Game tied with 19 seconds remaining, Favre scrambled at about the New Orleans 40-yard line, with open field ahead of him. All he needed to do was run a few yards, hook-slide, call timeout, and the Vikings' strong-legged kicker, Ryan Longwell, had a solid chance to win the NFC championship. But the credit had to go to Favre; he had to throw a spectacular pass at the end, so television announcers would swoon. So he heave-hoed a dramatic across-the-field pass. It was intercepted, and the Saints won in overtime.

Perhaps you are thinking, "It was just a dumb mistake, and the whole thing happened in a couple of seconds." No. Two years of Favre's life built up to that moment. For two years, Favre has insisted that entire NFL franchises, the Jets and the Vikings, become thralls to his celebrity. He has used his stature to demand, demand, demand -- the crux of the demands are always attention and publicity for himself. Now he is brought low. In two of the past three seasons, Favre has lost in the NFC Championship Game. Each time, his team seemed poised to win at the end; each time, Favre's final play of the game was a disastrous interception. And each of those title losses was in overtime -- to punish Favre for his hamartia, twice the football gods allowed him to come so close, so close, then denied him. Favre has been brought so low, he is now being laughed at in Wisconsin, and he has only himself to blame. Aristotle would not be surprised by the ending of the Favre saga. If, of course, it was the ending.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/100126&sportCat=nfl

[Flystripper]

Favre did nothing a rookie out of USC didn't do. In fact, that rookie out of USC took the team Favre couldn't get into the playoffs and got them to the AFC championship.

This year Favre took over a playoff team with a top 5 defense and the top RB in the game, and got them two games further than last season, before ending the season with a ridiculously dumb mistake. Stick Favre on the Saints or the Colts, and they are a one-and done playoff team. Unlike Manning or Brees, Favre is not the guy who makes everybody around him better. He is not the guy whose mentality, work ethic, and dedication changes the entire culture of a franchise. Perfect example: instead of picking a team and showing up for mini camp and training camp to maximize his practice time with his coaches, coordinators, and teammates, Favre continually chooses to sit back and relax until just before the season begins. Contrast that to Manning and Brees, who spend huge chunks of their offseason and preseason practicing with NFL no-names like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Lance Moore and Robert Meacham to ensure they are on the same page as soon as the season begins.

What I find funny is that Minnesota had (has) all the pieces in place, and just needed a guy who could come in and not lose games for them. Instead, they brought in the biggest risk-reward QB of all time. And what did he do? He put his risk-reward tendencies on hold and did a great job of not losing games for most of the season. But ultimately his gun-slinging ways got the best of him, and, in the end, they got the best of the Vikings, too.

You do know Rex Ryan was not Favre's coach right?

How good was Sidney Rice and Bernard Barrian before Favre?

How many interceptions did he throw on Sunday?

How many turnovers were the result of other Vikings?

Bret Favre is not as good as Peyton Manning? .... duh!

[Indy Coug]

Brett can go farve himself.

[TripletDaddy]

This has probably already been shared, but one interesting bit of Favre trivia:

His stints with the Packers, Jets, and now Vikings have all ended in interceptions.

That is actually not an easy thing to accomplish.