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  • The Michael Vick interview on 60 Minutes

    James Brown did an okay job last night.

    I don't really believe that Vick is sorry for what he did. I didn't get much of a sense of sorrow for the deeds he committed. I do get the sense that he won't engage in dog fighting again until he's done with football.

    Let's just say that Vick wasn't convincing when he says he was sitting there in jail and thinking about what he did to those dogs as opposed to sitting there in jail and thinking about what a waste he made of his career and all the money he lost. At one point, he said the money didn't matter because he hurt those dogs. Although I don't own a dog and haven't had one since I was 13 years old and maybe I can't relate, but I know I would be a helluva lot more pissed at myself that I let my career and my money slip away because of something as stupid as dogfighting than I would be about engaging in the dogfighting itself.

    I think Vick would have been a lot more believable if he would have expressed frustration in himself for having been so stupid for engaging in dogfighting to the extent it ruined his career and then said that his respect for animals isn't perfect but is improving over time. Couple that perspective with a vow not to engage in the practice anymore, and I think things would have gone better for Vick.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    I don't give a crap if he's sorry he did it or not. He's not up for a parole hearing. He didn't wrong me and I don't need some contrived media moment where he can assuage my faux outrage.

    He's paid dearly for what he did (certainly more than anyone else that has ever been busted for dogfighting) and if doesn't ever do it again, that's the end of the matter.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      I don't give a crap if he's sorry he did it or not. He's not up for a parole hearing. He didn't wrong me and I don't need some contrived media moment where he can assuage my faux outrage.

      He's paid dearly for what he did (certainly more than anyone else that has ever been busted for dogfighting) and if doesn't ever do it again, that's the end of the matter.
      Pretty much how I feel.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        I don't give a crap if he's sorry he did it or not. He's not up for a parole hearing. He didn't wrong me and I don't need some contrived media moment where he can assuage my faux outrage.

        He's paid dearly for what he did (certainly more than anyone else that has ever been busted for dogfighting) and if doesn't ever do it again, that's the end of the matter.
        Amen, if I were Vick I would have a bit of a chip on my shoulder after being crucified like he has.
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        • #5
          I also don't care if Vick is sorry for dogfighting. He paid over 50M in lost wages for his behavior. That is way more sorry than I have ever been for anything in my life.....and that includes tickets to the BYU/UCLA Vegas Bowl!
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          • #6
            We have ladies in our office outraged that Vick would be allowed to play again. I guess two years and millions of dollars wasn't enough for them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
              We have ladies in our office outraged that Vick would be allowed to play again. I guess two years and millions of dollars wasn't enough for them.
              Put $50M on a table in front of the average American. Then tell them they can have the money, but 30 dogs will have to die first.

              My guess (on average): adios, chihuahuas!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                I don't give a crap if he's sorry he did it or not. He's not up for a parole hearing. He didn't wrong me and I don't need some contrived media moment where he can assuage my faux outrage.

                He's paid dearly for what he did (certainly more than anyone else that has ever been busted for dogfighting) and if doesn't ever do it again, that's the end of the matter.
                I agree. My point is that his handlers must have been hellbent on him expressing his sorrow for what he did to the dogs. First, I don't buy it that he's really all that sorrowful for the act itself and quite frankly it wouldn't bother me very much if he wasn't. Second, it comes off as looking contrived.

                Peter King wrote a column on SI.com about the Vick signing and he started it out by saying that Vick had repeatedly expressed regret while in jail to those that visited him for not working harder to develop himself as a QB while in the NFL. I remember watching a broadcast of a V-Tech game back in 1999 where one of the commentators mentioned that Vick never worked out and ate a bunch of crap (something that Derrick Rose does also). Vick was/is just a natural athlete in all senses of the word. So it's not surprising that he never progressed as a QB in the NFL. Apparently, Vick is now very motivated to work on his game.

                If what King says is accurate, I find Vick's motivation to work hard and better himself a lot more convincing and impressive than if the guy was sitting in prison thinking about all the dogs he killed.

                The Eagles signing potentially has a lot of upside with very little downside. Vick likely still has plenty of athleticism left and he may now have the motivation to work on his passing game. McNabb has suffered numerous nagging injuries in recent seasons that limits his effectiveness and Vick will likely have the opportunity for some significant playing time.
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • #9
                  CMBD post is a great example of why Vick is a bad human being. Arthur Blank treated him like a son and he stabbed him in the back.

                  He never committed to the Falcons despite the huge financial commitment. Plus no one should feel bad about the money he lost. He got millions for work he never performed.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    CMBD post is a great example of why Vick is a bad human being. Arthur Blank treated him like a son and he stabbed him in the back.

                    He never committed to the Falcons despite the huge financial commitment. Plus no one should feel bad about the money he lost. He got millions for work he never performed.
                    From what I understand, he has admitted his laziness during his tenure with the Falcons.
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                    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                    • #11
                      funk, what can Vick do to atone for what he's done?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                        funk, what can Vick do to atone for what he's done?
                        I bet if he came out and publicy called LeBron James a lyin, cheatin, dunked on cover up, egotistical, selfish pussy, that would suffice or at least go a long way toward redemption.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                          I bet if he came out and publicy called LeBron James a lyin, cheatin, dunked on cover up, egotistical, selfish pussy, that would suffice or at least go a long way toward redemption.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                            I bet if he came out and publicy called LeBron James a lyin, cheatin, dunked on cover up, egotistical, selfish pussy, that would suffice or at least go a long way toward redemption.
                            LMAO, that was awesome.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                              funk, what can Vick do to atone for what he's done?
                              Sincerely apologize to Arthur Blank (which will never happen) for stabbing him in the back and stealing from him. Pay back the money that he received from the Falcons that he didn't earn.
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