NFL first-round picks signing status...

[Sizzle]

A very bad gamble in the end for SF, if so.

As a 49ers fan I can't get too upset over the way the 49ers have handled this. You take a gamble on a player that talented. So he turns out to be a knucklehead. Unfortunately those are the breaks. It looks like now maybe taking orakpo would have been the better move, but like I said, I can't really fault them for taking a guy who won't sign because he is an absolute dumbass.

[UtahDan]

As a 49ers fan I can't get too upset over the way the 49ers have handled this. You take a gamble on a player that talented. So he turns out to be a knucklehead. Unfortunately those are the breaks. It looks like now maybe taking orakpo would have been the better move, but like I said, I can't really fault them for taking a guy who won't sign because he is an absolute dumbass.

Yes, hard to foresee that.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

As a 49ers fan I can't get too upset over the way the 49ers have handled this. You take a gamble on a player that talented. So he turns out to be a knucklehead. Unfortunately those are the breaks. It looks like now maybe taking orakpo would have been the better move, but like I said, I can't really fault them for taking a guy who won't sign because he is an absolute dumbass.

Crabtree's an asshole and I thought before the draft that Crabtree had some huge bust potential. On one hand, the 49ers won't be saddled with yet another horrible rookie contract (Smith, Davis and the Crabtree), on the other hand they wasted the #10 pick which could have been spent on Orakpo which would have fulfilled a nice need for that defense or they could have reached and picked Oher who's a terrific run blocker.

Supposedly, the Niners hold Crabtree's rights all the way until midnight before the 2010 draft. That means that Crabtree can't work out for any other team and I believe he probably couldn't even interview with them. I'm hoping the Niners are vindictive as possible and restrict this kid from getting any exposure that would help him in the 2010 draft. He'll get picked after the top 15, most likely, and that means significantly less money than being top 10.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Anyone see Dr. Lou on tonight's halftime? Crabtree ask the good Dr. about how to deal with an agent. Kind of ironic.

[Fiyero]

Mel Kiper said today if Crab holds out the whole season and enters the 2010 draft, he'll go in the 10-12 range.

The problem is that he was projected to go 5th before getting injured during draft camps and fell to 10, but still wanted to be paid as a 5. Didn't feel a short, one-month injury should cost him $10-15 million.

So suppose he gets redrafted between 10-12. Will he again hold out for top 5 money?

[UtahDan]

Mel Kiper said today if Crab holds out the whole season and enters the 2010 draft, he'll go in the 10-12 range.

The problem is that he was projected to go 5th before getting injured during draft camps and fell to 10, but still wanted to be paid as a 5. Didn't feel a short, one-month injury should cost him $10-15 million.

So suppose he gets redrafted between 10-12. Will he again hold out for top 5 money?

And if yes, will anyone draft him there knowing that he won't sign unless he gets that kind of money. I think he could drop like a rock. Having seen this unfold once with San Fran, teams would have to know he is a huge risk. You would need someone as stupid as Al Davis or Dan Snyder. Not sure anyone else would pull the trigger in the first half of the first round.

[Fiyero]

His best argument would be to compare himself to Randy Moss who dropped to 21st because of his off-field issues. Moss should have gone top 5.

[CardiacCoug]

Anyone see Dr. Lou on tonight's halftime? Crabtree ask the good Dr. about how to deal with an agent. Kind of ironic.

For once Lou Holtz made a lot of sense with his advice to ask a team for their best offer first without an agent, then to hire an agent only on the condition that he keep a percentage of anything over that initial offer.

[Sizzle]

And if yes, will anyone draft him there knowing that he won't sign unless he gets that kind of money. I think he could drop like a rock. Having seen this unfold once with San Fran, teams would have to know he is a huge risk. You would need someone as stupid as Al Davis or Dan Snyder. Not sure anyone else would pull the trigger in the first half of the first round.

(I apologize ahead of time for the excessive use of the word "dumbass" in the following post. There just isn't a better word to describe "Crabs".)

Here is the thing that I find stupid. #1, teams are going to be reluctant to draft a player who hasn't played in over a year, and know that the dumbass is willing to sit out to get "paid" like a top 5 player. Why risk the dumbass sitting out again? #2, Dumbass is wasting a year where he could be playing and earning money, endorsements AND salary, instead of sitting out. You think people are going to line up to endorse the dumbass who squabbled over his contract? #3, the chances that he is drafted HIGHER than 10 next season are very unlikely, considering that he likely won't be able to work out or interview for any other teams during that time. Is a team REALLY going to want to invest a top 5 pick on something that unknown? #4, what team is going to want to be the team that cracks and pays the dumbass what he is asking for? The NFL has the unwritten salary slotting rule, and no GM is going to break that because a dumbass slides because of an injury.

Seriously, Crabtree is a dumbass. The more I think about this, the more I cannot believe he is willing to sit out a full season to get paid like a top 5 player. And how terrible will it be for the team that drafts him next year and, because he was a dumbass and sat out the whole season, expects to make some of that money back up over the life of his contract.

[il Padrino Ute]

(I apologize ahead of time for the excessive use of the word "dumbass" in the following post. There just isn't a better word to describe "Crabs".)

Here is the thing that I find stupid. #1, teams are going to be reluctant to draft a player who hasn't played in over a year, and know that the dumbass is willing to sit out to get "paid" like a top 5 player. Why risk the dumbass sitting out again? #2, Dumbass is wasting a year where he could be playing and earning money, endorsements AND salary, instead of sitting out. You think people are going to line up to endorse the dumbass who squabbled over his contract? #3, the chances that he is drafted HIGHER than 10 next season are very unlikely, considering that he likely won't be able to work out or interview for any other teams during that time. Is a team REALLY going to want to invest a top 5 pick on something that unknown? #4, what team is going to want to be the team that cracks and pays the dumbass what he is asking for? The NFL has the unwritten salary slotting rule, and no GM is going to break that because a dumbass slides because of an injury.

Seriously, Crabtree is a dumbass. The more I think about this, the more I cannot believe he is willing to sit out a full season to get paid like a top 5 player. And how terrible will it be for the team that drafts him next year and, because he was a dumbass and sat out the whole season, expects to make some of that money back up over the life of his contract.

You're right, Sizz. He's a dumbass. It would be great fun if nobody were to draft him next year because of his sitting out this year.

[cougjunkie]

If Crab refuses to sign and goes back in to the draft, do the 49ers receive any sort of compensatory pick?

[Surfah]

If Crab refuses to sign and goes back in to the draft, do the 49ers receive any sort of compensatory pick?

This is what I was wondering. Because that freaking blows if they don't. I also had the same thought if Richard Seymour had held out and refused to join the Raiders. Had he not decided to report do the Raiders just lose out on their 1st round pick?

The NFL has some serious issues with its draft, rookie salaries, etc.

[DrumNFeather]

This is what I was wondering. Because that freaking blows if they don't. I also had the same thought if Richard Seymour had held out and refused to join the Raiders. Had he not decided to report do the Raiders just lose out on their 1st round pick?

The NFL has some serious issues with its draft, rookie salaries, etc.

They'll probably get a 3rd rounder. That's the highest compensitory pick usually awarded, and since the Redskins vacted theirs when they took Jeremy Jarmon, it would be easy to do.

I like the way MLB does it. If you don't sign a guy by a certain date, he goes back into the draft next year and you get the equivalent of the pick you had drafted him with.

The NFL also desperately needs a rookie salary structure.

[Fiyero]

When Eli refused to play for San Diego, at least the Chargers were able to trade him for Philip Rivers. The problem with Crab though is he wants any team to pay him like he's Posh Spice.

The NBA salary caps work wonders.

[Sizzle]

In an intersting twist, the 49ers have filed tampering charges against the Jets for dealings with Crabtree. Wonder if they have had a side deal going on as well and that is causing part of the issues.