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  • smokymountainrain
    Impressive Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 22593

    #5476
    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
    I like Vogel better than Lue, Williams or any of the other guys they interviewed. Wish Kidd wasn't a part of it.
    Agreed. Vogel is a good hire with the potential to be a dumpster fire with Kidd sitting there scheming to take his job.
    I'm like LeBron James.
    -mpfunk

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    • Eddie
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 8098

      #5477
      Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
      Agreed. Vogel is a good hire with the potential to be a dumpster fire with Kidd sitting there scheming to take his job.
      Seems like a horrible way to set up a lame duck coach. Especially when you're looking 3 years out or something? If it was the guys last year, and you knew at the end the next guy was taking over, that would be one thing. Heck - that's where we're at with my current agency - they named the successor 6 months before the current CEO's retirement date. Transition has been great. But three years of that? Yeah - not a great plan.

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      • HBCoug
        Peanut Gallery Asshat
        • Dec 2008
        • 2082

        #5478
        LAL locked down a nice asset last night with the 4th overall pick. Not sure if that piece necessarily makes their offer to New Orleans for AD more attractive than a Boston package built around Tatum and Brown, but it's certainly more attractive than what they could offer before last night.

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        • creekster
          It is NOT a monkey!
          • Nov 2008
          • 22661

          #5479
          Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
          LAL locked down a nice asset last night with the 4th overall pick. Not sure if that piece necessarily makes their offer to New Orleans for AD more attractive than a Boston package built around Tatum and Brown, but it's certainly more attractive than what they could offer before last night.
          maybe not enough.

          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • Flystripper
            Degenerate Gambler
            • Nov 2008
            • 14089

            #5480
            The Pelicans just don't like the Lakers. It will have to wait until he is a FA. I don't think a Boston deal will work now that Kyrie is all but gone and Hayward sucks, all they have to offer is picks and average players (Tatum is better than average but I doubt he will be enough even with a bunch of picks).
            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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            • smokymountainrain
              Impressive Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22593

              #5481
              Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
              The Pelicans just don't like the Lakers. It will have to wait until he is a FA. I don't think a Boston deal will work now that Kyrie is all but gone and Hayward sucks, all they have to offer is picks and average players (Tatum is better than average but I doubt he will be enough even with a bunch of picks).
              it will be interesting, but i still it's likely they trade him. sounds like he is still adamant about wanting out of new orleans and i don't see how you can go another year with a lame duck superstar like that. I think Boston can get a deal done.
              I'm like LeBron James.
              -mpfunk

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #5482
                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                it will be interesting, but i still it's likely they trade him. sounds like he is still adamant about wanting out of new orleans and i don't see how you can go another year with a lame duck superstar like that. I think Boston can get a deal done.
                But if Kyrie walks, and they have to trade picks and Tatum at minimum to get him then AD likely isn't going to resign in Boston. Lakers can put together the best deal right now with the 4th and young talent. Gayle Benson denies the over my dead body comment. But we'll see. There are a lot of FAs out there. It will be interesting to see if the Kawhi gamble pays off for Toronto. That could affect the AD trade offers.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                -Turtle
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                • SeattleUte
                  Faith crisis consultant
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 20837

                  #5483
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • Color Me Badd Fan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12519

                    #5484
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    That bit about Pelinka telling the story of setting up a meeting between Heath Ledger and Kobe after the release of The Dark Knight is really something.

                    If the Lakers could only get a virulently racist owner, they could become the new Sterling era Clippers. Meanwhile the current version of the Clippers have Jerry West advising them, are loaded with draft picks and young prospects, and seemed poised to land Kawhi Leonard in free agency.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • HBCoug
                      Peanut Gallery Asshat
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2082

                      #5485
                      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                      That bit about Pelinka telling the story of setting up a meeting between Heath Ledger and Kobe after the release of The Dark Knight is really something.

                      If the Lakers could only get a virulently racist owner, they could become the new Sterling era Clippers. Meanwhile the current version of the Clippers have Jerry West advising them, are loaded with draft picks and young prospects, and seemed poised to land Kawhi Leonard in free agency.
                      It makes me really sad to see what the good Dr's offspring have done to this proud franchise. Pelinka comes off as an insecure phony who drops Kobe's name every chance he gets. That Dark Knight story is so perfect for him. I fear the Lakers will strike out in "big game hunting" free agency again unless a player like Kawhi or KD is just hell bent on playing there and looks past the inept leadership.

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                      • Flystripper
                        Degenerate Gambler
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14089

                        #5486
                        Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
                        It makes me really sad to see what the good Dr's offspring have done to this proud franchise. Pelinka comes off as an insecure phony who drops Kobe's name every chance he gets. That Dark Knight story is so perfect for him. I fear the Lakers will strike out in "big game hunting" free agency again unless a player like Kawhi or KD is just hell bent on playing there and looks past the inept leadership.
                        pretty much. Magic basically torched the franchise on his way out (he was also a disaster) making it impossible to land free agents, but to be honest the franchise needs to be burnt to the ground so it can be rebuilt. Hopefully the Buss family burns along with everything else.
                        Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                        • MartyFunkhouser
                          Disciple of RNGesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 18720

                          #5487
                          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                          pretty much. Magic basically torched the franchise on his way out (he was also a disaster) making it impossible to land free agents, but to be honest the franchise needs to be burnt to the ground so it can be rebuilt. Hopefully the Buss family burns along with everything else.
                          I hope that somehow we emerge from the rubble with a revival of the Magic Hour.
                          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                          --Kendrick Lamar

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                          • Surfah
                            Where's Wallace?
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 33726

                            #5488
                            I don't know why Pelinka wasn't fired when Magic bailed. All the faith I had in Jeanie to not be like her brothers is gone.
                            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                            -Turtle
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                            • Green Monstah
                              Royal Rooter
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 13929

                              #5489
                              In my lifetime, the Lakers have struggled on a few occasions. Off the top of my head, the transition between Magic/Kareem and Shaq led to some lean years, the post-Shaq era (until Jerry West forgot he was the Grizzlies GM and not the Lakers GM). But I'm not sure I've ever seen the Lakers look like a complete dumpster fire on the court and in the back office like now. I just wish the Suns were somehow not worse than the Lakers in every way imaginable so I could run some smack.
                              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                              • Color Me Badd Fan
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12519

                                #5490
                                Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
                                It makes me really sad to see what the good Dr's offspring have done to this proud franchise. Pelinka comes off as an insecure phony who drops Kobe's name every chance he gets. That Dark Knight story is so perfect for him. I fear the Lakers will strike out in "big game hunting" free agency again unless a player like Kawhi or KD is just hell bent on playing there and looks past the inept leadership.
                                It seems like the Clippers stench is gone. The way they cut bait with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin when it was clear that the team wasn't good enough to compete and then put themselves in serious contention with the likely Kawhi pickup is impressive. It's only been two seasons since Griffin and Paul were both there.

                                There was a story that the ESPN column alluded to when they quoted a player who had been traded to another team and what he said to another pending free agent -- something like things are a disaster with the Lakers right now. Paul George looked like he was going to sign with the Lakers until word got around that the Lakers were the west coast Knicks. KD isn't a SoCal native like Kawhi or George and he's coming off the appearance that he gravytrained off of Steph Curry for 2-3 rings. The Lakers with LeBron doesn't seem likely. The Clippers, perhaps. The Knicks have the cap space for two big time free agents, but who's going with KD to that mess? The rumor is that KD actually wants to go to the Knicks -- I'll believe it when I see it
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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