Second biggest loser behind US Soccer in general after last night: Fox Sports. They paid a boat load of money to outbid ESPN for the 2018 World Cup rights in the US. Now they are going to get die hard fans only.
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostThe problem in the US is the club system. Currently we have a "pay for play" development program. The spots where most of our pro athletes come from, inner cities, don't play soccer. They can't afford to play soccer. They don't have the environment supporting them to play soccer.
Listening to the Dan Patrick show...one guy called in from New Orleans. He has 2 kids in club/select soccer. It cost him minimum of $5,000 per year, per kid, to even be on a team. And then he put 350,000 miles on his Land Cruiser driving them to tournaments. Land Cruiser. That is an upper middle class family.
We have to have a cultural change to get more people access. College scouts and development teams don't go looking at the local AYSO to find people to develop.
Also it is the style of play that comes with club soccer. USSF is working on changing that. Having small sided games (no 11 v 11 with 6 year olds) and also encouraging play from the back of the field with the new build out line and no punts or drop kicks. New initiatives that have taken place in the last few years, that will take a long time before they filter up to the higher levels, but they have recognized that there is an issue and are trying to impediment things at the lowest levels to change things.
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Originally posted by Shaka View PostI'd like to join Frank and Bluek in blaming Trump for this disaster. Will the horror never end?
Might as well lump the demise of BYU football on him as well."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostThe problem in the US is the club system. Currently we have a "pay for play" development program. The spots where most of our pro athletes come from, inner cities, don't play soccer. They can't afford to play soccer. They don't have the environment supporting them to play soccer.
Listening to the Dan Patrick show...one guy called in from New Orleans. He has 2 kids in club/select soccer. It cost him minimum of $5,000 per year, per kid, to even be on a team. And then he put 350,000 miles on his Land Cruiser driving them to tournaments. Land Cruiser. That is an upper middle class family.
We have to have a cultural change to get more people access. College scouts and development teams don't go looking at the local AYSO to find people to develop.
Work on marketing soccer. Does anyone even know when Barcelona plays Real Madrid? Put American commentators on the game and add the graphics and replays and explanations to help the viewer along. Market the hell out of it. Americans will catch on. It's a great sport.
Build up city leagues. Build up high school programs. Get the pool of athletes where our professional athletes come from playing soccer past six years old. Then get them playing it past 12 years old. Then you'll get some players from it. Basketball also is a sport that requires a high level of skill. But we don't develop basketball players by creating a club system that costs $1,000+ per year starting at age 8 and push everyone else out of the sport. It happens organically because a lot of people love basketball.Last edited by jay santos; 10-11-2017, 08:21 AM.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostSecond biggest loser behind US Soccer in general after last night: Fox Sports. They paid a boat load of money to outbid ESPN for the 2018 World Cup rights in the US. Now they are going to get die hard fans only.
Supposedly the US/Mexico is likely getting the World Cup in 2026 and that will get huge ratings. Fox has the rights to that.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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Pretty crazy that playing soccer in the US is so pricey. I would contend that one of the primary reasons it's so popular everywhere else is because it's so cheap. All you really need is a ball and a few rocks.
It's a lot cheaper than football or hockey. Even baseball has more equipment costs.
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Originally posted by Pelado View PostPretty crazy that playing soccer in the US is so pricey. I would contend that one of the primary reasons it's so popular everywhere else is because it's so cheap. All you really need is a ball and a few rocks.
It's a lot cheaper than football or hockey. Even baseball has more equipment costs.
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Originally posted by falafel View PostIts not actually that cheap. The kids who are good with the ball and the rocks are quickly discovered by the big teams and invited to join their academy programs, which then pay tons of money to train and educate them. So in other words, its still really expensive, its just the teams that are footing the bill in other countries, whereas in the US the parents are paying for it.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostSecond biggest loser behind US Soccer in general after last night: Fox Sports. They paid a boat load of money to outbid ESPN for the 2018 World Cup rights in the US. Now they are going to get die hard fans only."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostAnd it the US we can't do this, because of the NCAA and amateurism. If the kid has been "paid" to play the sport, and washes out of a club developmental program, he wouldn't qualify to play soccer in college.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Originally posted by falafel View PostIts not actually that cheap. The kids who are good with the ball and the rocks are quickly discovered by the big teams and invited to join their academy programs, which then pay tons of money to train and educate them. So in other words, its still really expensive, its just the teams that are footing the bill in other countries, whereas in the US the parents are paying for it.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostAnd yet we can develop a Chris Paul. I'm betting his parents weren't paying thousands a year to get him onto a basketball team when he was in elementary school.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostJAy aren't you involved in the AAU program? Around here that can be pretty competitive and people travel a long way sometimes to get their kid on a particular BB team.Last edited by jay santos; 10-11-2017, 11:25 AM.
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostAnd yet we can develop a Chris Paul. I'm betting his parents weren't paying thousands a year to get him onto a basketball team when he was in elementary school.Originally posted by creekster View PostJAy aren't you involved in the AAU program? Around here that can be pretty competitive and people travel a long way sometimes to get their kid on a particular BB team.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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