NBA 2012-2013

[MarkGrace]

Go look at the box score. Amazing how well everyone shot. Parker was 10-14, Green 8-15, Kawhi 6-8. Duncan and Ginobili both well over 50%.

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60% as a team, 41% from 3. Pretty ridiculous.

[FN Phat]

What I don't understand is how the Heat keep losing Green. If this thing goes 7, Danny Green could push that Finals 3 point record to where it is untouchable.

Time and time again the Heat loses Green. How is that possible?

I loved watching the back and forth of Green and Allen. Very fun shoot out.

[Surfah]

Time and time again the Heat loses Green. How is that possible?

I loved watching the back and forth of Green and Allen. Very fun shoot out.

Seriously. It doesn't matter who they put on Green they keep sucking his defender down low to free him up for wide open shots.

[Non Sequitur]

I'm not sure if the Spurs are a better team than the Heat, but I'm positive that Greg Popovich is a better coach than Erik Spoelstra. If Popovich were coaching the Heat, we'd be talking baseball today.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Is there a betting line on Joey Crawford being one of the refs assigned to Game 6? I'll be absolutely shocked if I don't see that jackass running around the court on Tuesday.

[SandYFan]

Is there a betting line on Joey Crawford being one of the refs assigned to Game 6? I'll be absolutely shocked if I don't see that jackass running around the court on Tuesday.

I've seen more crying about future officiating in this series....

How about we complain about the refs after they clearly give a game to Miami?

Because so far that hasn't happened, but before every single game it seems there's someone whining about how the Heat will get preferential treatment next time.

It's getting old.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Except the Heat have lost 1/3 of their games in the playoffs the last three years at the hands of Joey Crawford. I'm not sure what your point is here.

I haven't seen him since Game 2 and his showboating ass is overdue to make another appearance and render the game unwatchable.

[San Juan Sun]

I've seen more crying about future officiating in this series....

How about we complain about the refs after they clearly give a game to Miami?

Because so far that hasn't happened,

Ummm, remember 2006? When Dwayne Wade was mistakenly given Dick Bavetta's Finals MVP award?

Discussing Joey Crawford is totally relevant, as he is an infamous referee with a known antipathy for the Spurs.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Ummm, remember 2006? When Dwayne Wade was mistakenly given Dick Bavetta's Finals MVP award?

Discussing Joey Crawford is totally relevant, as he is an infamous referee with a known antipathy for the Spurs.

Crawford was suspended for something like half a season because of what happened when he reffed a Spurs game. So, you're right, there is some known antipathy there. On the other hand because it is known, everyone looks for it. Crawford's performance while reffing Heat games is at least anomalous, the fact that he has reffed 1/3 of Miami's playoff losses seems odd to me -- how many of Miami's playoffs games has he reffed overall and how many have they lose. I do know his crew has called the last two games where LeBron fouled out.

My biggest beef with the guy is that he makes games unwatchable. That may not have happened in Game 2, I didn't watch it because I was driving on a trip and listening on the radio.

He also seems ref every other playoff game and I was shocked I didn't see him last night in Game 5. I will also be shocked if I don't see him tomorrow night. If he's not there tomorrow night, I'd wager an enormous amount of money on seeing him in Game 7.

And the numbers involving questionable reffing performances in the NBA are becoming legion -- I think the 2006 Finals as a whole stands out by itself. It wasn't just one game, it was multiple games and the entire series. There are three undisputed members of the Mount Rushmore of horrible reffing jobs:

1. The 2006 Finals.

2. Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference Finals. I've heard Ralph Nader discuss sports exactly once, and it was after this game when everyone in the country outside of Southern California thought they just watched the basketball equivalent of the WWF.

3. Game 7 of the 1993 Western Conference Finals. How does a team lose a game where it hits 50% of its shots compared to their opponents' less than 42% shooting? It's pretty easy when your opponent gets 64 foul shots compared to your 36.

[SandYFan]

Ummm, remember 2006? When Dwayne Wade was mistakenly given Dick Bavetta's Finals MVP award?

Discussing Joey Crawford is totally relevant, as he is an infamous referee with a known antipathy for the Spurs.

I do remember 2006.

I'd also like to see the refs give this game to Miami before we complain about the refs giving the game to Miami.

[San Juan Sun]

I do remember 2006.

I'd also like to see the refs give this game to Miami before we complain about the refs giving the game to Miami.

I'm not sure what you're objecting to. Is Joey Crawford a relevant topic for discussion? I think both myself and CMBF has laid out reasons why. Have referees impacted the outcomes of the NBA Finals? Again, almost certainly yes.

I think we're watching the most compelling Finals since 2010, and I'm glad for anyone willing to discuss aspects of it. If people talking about Joey Crawford bothers you, your escape is only one click away.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Ummm, remember 2006? When Dwayne Wade was mistakenly given Dick Bavetta's Finals MVP award?

Discussing Joey Crawford is totally relevant, as he is an infamous referee with a known antipathy for the Spurs.

Actually, the data points to Crawford actually being a favorable referee for Spurs games. That is ignored because of him acting like a pompous ass in 2007.

[Blueintheface]

Here's a random aside...when the hotel I worked for was franchised a Marriott the person who came out to train us on their MARSHA system was Dick Bavetta's girlfriend. She wasn't completely unattractive and was around 25 years his junior.

Back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

[San Juan Sun]

Actually, the data points to Crawford actually being a favorable referee for Spurs games. That is ignored because of him acting like a pompous ass in 2007.

See, another person with a good reason why it's OK to discuss the refs.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Game 7 of the 2000 Conference Finals was one of the best games I've ever seen. I also totally hated the 2000 Jailblazers team. I don't really want to besmirch it, but I will anyway. The Lakers shot 21 more foul shots than the Blazers. Mind you, we're not talking about 64 foul shots here, the Lakers had 37.

But it's interesting to me that Dick Bavetta was a ref in that game, Game 7 of the 1993 WCF and Game 6 of the 2002 WCF.