Alex Smiths days as a niner are numbered?

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  • cougjunkie
    *Banned*
    • Nov 2008
    • 23223

    #1

    Alex Smiths days as a niner are numbered?

    Niners looking for a new QB?
    According to a report from the San Francisco Chronicle, former No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith looked pretty bad during the San Francisco 49ers' most recent minicamp. Smith's passes were loose, and it appeared that he was still suffering some aftereffects of his shoulder surgery.

    This lackluster output, combined with the fact that the team has hosted both Mark Sanchez and Matthew Stafford in recent weeks, has led to speculation that they aren't satisfied with either Smith or Shaun Hill entering the 2009 season as the team's starting quarterback. It's expected that the team's offense this season will be run-heavy to make use of their best offensive player, Frank Gore, as well as to take the ball out of the hands of whoever does win the starting QB battle.

    But the other option is to acquire another player to compete with Smith and Hill for the job, and with the free-agent market all but completely dried up after the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' signing of Byron Leftwich, that would leave the draft and a trade. It's possible that Sanchez and Stafford will both be gone by the time the 49ers' first pick rolls around at No. 10, and Kansas State's Josh Freeman would be a big stretch with that pick. Furthermore, rookie quarterbacks are always a gamble, and none of the top triumvirate of gunslingers in this year's draft class are considered surefire superstars, either.

    Therefore, the 49ers could very likely be the mystery team that has been linked to a trade with the Cleveland Browns for Brady Quinn. The National Football Post has been informed by multiple sources that there is a team who has put a first-round pick on the table in exchange for Quinn, and the Niners would make a world of sense in that role. The team has searched fruitlessly for a stud quarterback since the Jeff Garcia days earlier this decade, and by all indications Quinn is a superstar waiting for the right situation.

    In spite of other needs perhaps outweighing signal-caller -- including safety, wide receiver and linebacker -- making a move for Quinn would give the offense a genuine facelift, and would also silence critics of general manager Scot McCloughan, who has been steadfast in defending his decision to draft Smith with the No. 1 pick in 2005. The NFL is still the "League of Quarterbacks", and this team would be in much better shape in 2009 with Quinn under center instead of Smith or Hill.
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  • Raketemensch
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 87

    #2
    Trade for Brady Quinn? I don't understand. Why is Brady Quinn sought after? Have these people seen him play? He sucks. It's that Notre Dame name recognition coming through again.

    I think Smith may have ended up as a decent QB in the right situation. He had awful offensive lines and no weapons. Young guys get ruined that way.

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    • Guest

      #3
      McCloughan doesn't want to get fired. If the Niners are not better next season, he will be canned.

      I really don't see them drafting a QB. That's a two year project (at least) and McCloughan doesn't have two years left, if the Ws don't improve.

      They were serious about Warner. So if they can get a solid vet, I can see them pulling the trigger on a trade. But it will need to be a demonstrable upgrade from Hill and a proven winner. They don't want/need a playmaker per se; they need a field general, with command in the huddle.

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      • HuskyFreeNorthwest
        Time to camp
        • Nov 2008
        • 26082

        #4
        I was really surprised the 49ers didn't go after Cassell or Cutler.
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • Sizzle
          #ThisIsY
          • Nov 2008
          • 9004

          #5
          I'm not sold on the idea of trading a first round pick, especially a #10 overall pick to the Browns for Quinn. I don't think he's proven worthy of being the #22 pick in the draft, so moving a #10 pick for him seems like a huge reach. Especially when the chances of a guy who could really help the team in another area being available at #10 are pretty high. The 49ers could use any of the following players who could very well be there are 10:

          BJ Raji
          Michael Crabtree
          Andre Smith
          Brian Orakpo
          Eugene Monroe

          All 5 of those players would fill needs for the 49ers. You have a guy in Shaun Hill who, while not being the prettiest player in the NFL, at least he won games as a starter and finished the season 6-2. I think you have an offense built around running the ball and grinding it out, and let your defense put you in better field position to put points on the board. Adding a guy like Orakpo or Maybin that can put pressure on the QB is something that San Fran needs almost as much as a QB.

          I wouldn't have been upset giving up 10 for Cutler. But for Quinn, right now, I'm not a fan.

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          • Sizzle
            #ThisIsY
            • Nov 2008
            • 9004

            #6
            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
            The National Football Post has been informed by multiple sources that there is a team who has put a first-round pick on the table in exchange for Quinn
            Denver
            Detroit
            Jacksonville
            New York Jets
            Washington
            Minnesota

            I could see any of those teams taking a risk on Quinn as well. They make as much sense as San Fran does.

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            • DrumNFeather
              Invisible Swordsman
              • Nov 2008
              • 8854

              #7
              Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
              Denver
              Detroit
              Jacksonville
              New York Jets
              Washington
              Minnesota

              I could see any of those teams taking a risk on Quinn as well. They make as much sense as San Fran does.
              If I were Cleveland, I would jump at a 3rd round pick for Quinn, let alone a first rounder.

              Smith is going to have a tough time getting another shot at being a starter in the NFL. His on the field play coupled with his injury will likely end his time in San Fransisco. The best he can hope for now is to go be a back up at a contender and hope to have a Byron Leftwich type opportunity where you get to play behind a good line and with good players around you.
              "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

              Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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              • Color Me Badd Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 12519

                #8
                Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                I'm not sold on the idea of trading a first round pick, especially a #10 overall pick to the Browns for Quinn. I don't think he's proven worthy of being the #22 pick in the draft, so moving a #10 pick for him seems like a huge reach. Especially when the chances of a guy who could really help the team in another area being available at #10 are pretty high. The 49ers could use any of the following players who could very well be there are 10:

                BJ Raji
                Michael Crabtree
                Andre Smith
                Brian Orakpo
                Eugene Monroe

                All 5 of those players would fill needs for the 49ers. You have a guy in Shaun Hill who, while not being the prettiest player in the NFL, at least he won games as a starter and finished the season 6-2. I think you have an offense built around running the ball and grinding it out, and let your defense put you in better field position to put points on the board. Adding a guy like Orakpo or Maybin that can put pressure on the QB is something that San Fran needs almost as much as a QB.

                I wouldn't have been upset giving up 10 for Cutler. But for Quinn, right now, I'm not a fan.
                The #10 pick for Quinn is way too much. San Francisco actually is developing a somewhat decent defense and they also have a very talented RB and an okay offensive line. I'm of the opinion that you simply take the best player available unless you already have a stud at the exact same position. They could pair Orakpo up with Patrick Willis, not a bad pass rushing-run stopping duo.
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • DrumNFeather
                  Invisible Swordsman
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8854

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  The #10 pick for Quinn is way too much. San Francisco actually is developing a somewhat decent defense and they also have a very talented RB and an okay offensive line. I'm of the opinion that you simply take the best player available unless you already have a stud at the exact same position. They could pair Orakpo up with Patrick Willis, not a bad pass rushing-run stopping duo.
                  If they want to make a splash, they should go for one of those top two WRs or see if someone wants to take Sanchez in their spot and trade down to get Nicks from NC or Heyward-Bey from Maryland.

                  A shocking pick that would bolster their offense would be Knowshawn Moreno. He'd be a nice 1-2 punch with Gore.
                  "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                  Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                  • Sizzle
                    #ThisIsY
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 9004

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                    If they want to make a splash, they should go for one of those top two WRs or see if someone wants to take Sanchez in their spot and trade down to get Nicks from NC or Heyward-Bey from Maryland.

                    A shocking pick that would bolster their offense would be Knowshawn Moreno. He'd be a nice 1-2 punch with Gore.
                    I would love for San Fran to trade down, depending upon who is available at #10. I think if they could get the only stud DT in Raji this year, you take him. I think if Crabtree falls to 10, you take him there as well. I like Monroe and Jason Smith as OTs, but I'm not 100% sold on Andre Smith because of his off the field issues. He's got the talent to be a top 5 pick, but is his head there? Not sure.

                    Either way, I'm stoked for the NFL Draft in 2 weeks.

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                    • Color Me Badd Fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12519

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                      If they want to make a splash, they should go for one of those top two WRs or see if someone wants to take Sanchez in their spot and trade down to get Nicks from NC or Heyward-Bey from Maryland.

                      A shocking pick that would bolster their offense would be Knowshawn Moreno. He'd be a nice 1-2 punch with Gore.
                      You can get solid RBs in the later rounds. The Cowboys had the luxury of picking Felix Jones last year because they didn't have a lot of holes on their offense and defense, the Niners don't have that. I think Sanchez or even Stafford might slip to the Niners because of the teams picking ahead of them. Only Detroit really needs a QB, and the other teams either don't need one or have a young prospect that might still pan out. Because this draft is supposedly not very deep and there's a huge spread between the #3 QB prospect and Sanchez, the Niners are potentially in a good position though I can see Denver trying to make a move to get just ahead of San Francisco.

                      I'm not sure what to make of Crabtree. I'm always leery of guys that come out of systems that inflate stats.
                      Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 04-14-2009, 05:10 PM.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • Sizzle
                        #ThisIsY
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 9004

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        You can get solid RBs in the later rounds.
                        Very true. They picked Frank Gore in round 3. I think they'd like to add a RB in the draft this year as well, but I think, like CMBF, that they have way too many other holes to fill to draft for luxury at 10.

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                        • BoylenOver
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 9146

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                          Either way, I'm stoked for the NFL Draft in 2 weeks.
                          I've never been head-over-heels excited for the NFL Draft, and even this year I wouldn't say I'm excited.

                          But I think this is the most attention I've ever paid to it, and it will be a strong opportunity for the Broncos to improve as a franchise.
                          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
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