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[MarkGrace]

Well, look at the type of hits it produced...

Well, look at the volume of hits it produced...

If you want to argue that he didn't get on base enough for a leadoff guy of his statute or his obp was too tied to avg, that's fine, I already gave you that one to start off. If you want to argue anything about his swing in relation to hits, you're going to lose.

[MarkGrace]

It's not. Think it over. Admittedly, on his first at bat/game the sequence is less important, but that accounts for only 1/4 -1/5 of his nightly ABs.

It's not less important in the first AB, it's entirely unimportant (again, excluding xbh's, of course). Could be in subsequent AB's as well. Hence my use of "without any greater context." As a blanket statement it's a dumb conclusion.

[Green Monstah]

What does it matter what his swing looks like?

Well, look at the type of hits it produced...

[Green Monstah]

Without any greater context this sequencing is just dumb (other than the last one, of course).

It's not. Think it over. Admittedly, on his first at bat/game the sequence is less important, but that accounts for only 1/4 -1/5 of his nightly ABs.

[MarkGrace]

Ben Gibbard releases Ichiro's Theme.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/07/new-music-ben-gibbard-ichiros-theme/

Sounds like the Beach Boys.

[MarkGrace]

I'm not sure I agree. Walk<Infield single<outfield single<xbh.

Without any greater context this sequencing is just dumb (other than the last one, of course).

[MarkGrace]

What does it matter what his swing looks like?

Nothing. It's a silly comment.

[falafel]

I'm not sure I agree. Walk<Infield single<outfield single<xbh.

Ichiro is not underrated. He had some great seasons in the early 2000s and 2007. He was not and is not horribly valuable in today's game, IMO. the listless, effeminate swing; the low OBP (particularly when compared against his BA). Dude could definitely swipe bags and play some outfield though. I was always more impressed with him defensively.

What does it matter what his swing looks like?

[Green Monstah]

If anytying ou should be unimpressed by how infrequently he got on base (always the big knock on him) for a leadoff hitter, not the way he got on base. That's dumb.

I'm not sure I agree. Walk<Infield single<outfield single<xbh.

Ichiro is not underrated. He had some great seasons in the early 2000s and 2007. He was not and is not horribly valuable in today's game, IMO. the listless, effeminate swing; the low OBP (particularly when compared against his BA). Dude could definitely swipe bags and play some outfield though. I was always more impressed with him defensively.

[Mormon Red Death]

That's fantastic news. Ichiro is one of the most overrated players of the last decade. I know that reasonable minds differ on this, but I've never been enamored with the guy. In fairness, he hasn't had a decent lineup the last 8 or 9 years, but I refuse to be impressed with a guy who gets on base like a fastpitch leadoff hitter (slap to short-third, run like hell). His arm though? That's, IMO, the most impressive thing about his career.

Are fing kidding me? He is the most UNDERrated player of all time. If he did what he did in Boston, Chicago or New York they would be comparing him to Joe Dimaggio.

[Northwestcoug]

It's GLORIOUS from my perspective (I think he'll be a disappointment overall). He'll have someone to drive him in now; I wonder if it works out for him.

Don't worry. The damn yankees make even the worst trades work for them.

[MarkGrace]

Went to the game tonight. Ichiro got a big ovation from the crowd in his first AB and responded by bowing twice. Singled up the middle and everyone cheered. Then stole second and they cheered again. ha.

Link with video. http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/ichiro...t-bat-yankees/

[MarkGrace]

"Going from a team with the most losses to the team with the most wins, it's hard to contain my excitement," Suzuki said through an interpreter at a press conference at Safeco Field.

haha. Ouch.

[DU Ute]

I'm not sure what you could expect in return at this point. He asked for a trade and doesn't fit in their plans, so they obliged.

Oh, I agree. I think it was a good trade for the M's

[MarkGrace]

They didn't get much in return, though the offset to his salary from the Yankees has to be nice.

I'm not sure what you could expect in return at this point. He asked for a trade and doesn't fit in their plans, so they obliged.