US Soccer

[jay santos]

My unpopular opinion: soccer coaching is the most overrated aspect of all professional sports. Especially a national team coach. It just doesn't matter that much.

[SteelBlue]

My unpopular opinion: soccer coaching is the most overrated aspect of all professional sports. Especially a national team coach. It just doesn't matter that much.

My gut feeling is that you're mostly correct. I base this on the number of former players who succeed immediately even at the highest levels. You don't see that in any other sport in the same kind of numbers. I do think guys off the Cruyff coaching tree are exceptional though.

[BigFatMeanie]

So, if chanting anti-gay things is enough to end a match, what’s to stop fans from a team with the lead from chanting and ending the game instead of risking a late-tying goal?

[Jeff Lebowski]

So, if chanting anti-gay things is enough to end a match, what’s to stop fans from a team with the lead from chanting and ending the game instead of risking a late-tying goal?

That’s not how it works.

Mexico has been doing this for years. They have gotten fines, threats, and have been forced to play without fans. Mexican futbol federation runs ads on Mexican tv begging people to stop. And they keep doing it.

[Pelado]

That’s not how it works.

Mexico has been doing this for years. They have gotten fines, threats, and have been forced to play without fans. Mexican futbol federation runs ads on Mexican tv begging people to stop. And they keep doing it.

Like DeSantis, they refuse to be silenced by the woke mob.

[Non Sequitur]

So, if chanting anti-gay things is enough to end a match, what’s to stop fans from a team with the lead from chanting and ending the game instead of risking a late-tying goal?

I'm not convinced that your concerns are rooted in late game crowd strategy as much as they are in the legitimacy of the group being targeted by the chants. Color me skeptical.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not convinced that your concerns are rooted in late game crowd strategy as much as they are in the legitimacy of the group being targeted by the chants. Color me skeptical.

Lol. Stop.

[Omaha 680]

The excitement about Copa America is palpable, particularly on this fair message board! What a disaster last night. Breaks did not go our way. The collision with Turner should have been a red card. that would have flipped the game because we would have been playing a man up and Weah probably doesn't lose his mind a few minutes later and get sent off making us play down a man most of the game. but it was freaking Panama so no excuses. With a team this good we should beat them down a man even. But an absolutely boneheaded red card by Weah which probably cost us qualification which should cost Berhalter his job. So maybe it's a good thing in the end. I am generally a homer for my coaches and I wanted Berhalter to succeed but after barely meeting expectations at the WC, he has seemed to continue to do less with more.

I texted my brother last night that maybe we could make this soap opera go full circle and hire Claudio Reyna.

[falafel]

The excitement about Copa America is palpable, particularly on this fair message board! What a disaster last night. Breaks did not go our way. The collision with Turner should have been a red card. that would have flipped the game because we would have been playing a man up and Weah probably doesn't lose his mind a few minutes later and get sent off making us play down a man most of the game. but it was freaking Panama so no excuses. With a team this good we should beat them down a man even. But an absolutely boneheaded red card by Weah which probably cost us qualification which should cost Berhalter his job. So maybe it's a good thing in the end. I am generally a homer for my coaches and I wanted Berhalter to succeed but after barely meeting expectations at the WC, he has seemed to continue to do less with more.

I texted my brother last night that maybe we could make this soap opera go full circle and hire Claudio Reyna.

It was brutal. The non-call on the Turner collision was mind-bottling. No chance at a play on the ball, exposed and defenseless goalie. That is not a close call. Unforgiveable.

But not as unforgiveable as Weah's sucker punch. There is absolutely no excuse for that on an AYSO team, let alone the pinnacle of American soccer. I don't know enough about Weah's history to know if the weight of his dumbass move should fall on Berhalter or Weah, but I'd fine or suspend or kick Weah in the nuts or something.

And the game started out so well.

[SteelBlue]

The excitement about Copa America is palpable, particularly on this fair message board!

I mean, historically the USMNT haven't exactly rewarded palpable excitement. My son was telling me that rooting for the US feels eerily similar to rooting for independence era BYU. I feel that. They can pull off some big wins but they can also lose to the soccer equivalent of UMASS.

Losing to Panama in the way it was done just took all the air out for me. No excuse for the boneheaded red and not getting out of this weak ass group is going to be embarrassing and such a waste of a loaded squad. Maybe we find a way to beat Uruguay?

[Moliere]

I mean, historically the USMNT haven't exactly rewarded palpable excitement. My son was telling me that rooting for the US feels eerily similar to rooting for independence era BYU. I feel that. They can pull off some big wins but they can also lose to the soccer equivalent of UMASS.

Losing to Panama in the way it was done just took all the air out for me. No excuse for the boneheaded red and not getting out of this weak ass group is going to be embarrassing and such a waste of a loaded squad. Maybe we find a way to beat Uruguay?

Ha! The comparison to independence BYU is spot on.

[falafel]

Bolivia has tied it up with Panama. U.S. and Uruguay at a tie currently. If it remains this way in both games, U.S. advances.

[falafel]

And just like that, Uruguay scores to go up 1-0.

[Omaha 680]

Well, it was fun Gregg. Let's see if we can get someone else to not completely waste this generation of talent.

[BlueK]

An awful lot of complaining by the announcers about the ref which wasn't completely off base, however the most salient point was when they said they were 83 minutes into it and the US had only taken 3 shots. That wasn't the ref. You can't win that way and Uruguay is good, right now definitely one of the favorites to win the tournament. The US threw this away by playing badly vs Panama, a team they know well and should beat at home.