US Soccer fires Bob Bradley

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  • SteelBlue
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 8180

    #1

    US Soccer fires Bob Bradley

    A very wordy press release here:



    Edit: They've updated it now so my "very wordy" comment is no longer funny. It was one sentence when I posted the link.
  • WashingtonCoug
    Monsters like me
    • Jan 2009
    • 1489

    #2
    Will they finally just go ahead and hire Jurgen Klinsmann!?
    "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
    —Abraham Maslow

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    • pellegrino
      miserere me
      • Jan 2009
      • 12100

      #3
      Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
      Will they finally just go ahead and hire Jurgen Klinsmann!?
      is he interested? IIRC, the reason we went with bradley is that klinsi wasn't interested.
      Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
      God forgives many things for an act of mercy
      Alessandro Manzoni

      Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

      pelagius

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      • BigFatMeanie
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 7100

        #4
        Doesn't matter who they get. The US doesn't have the horses to compete at the top tier of international play.

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        • WashingtonCoug
          Monsters like me
          • Jan 2009
          • 1489

          #5
          Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
          is he interested? IIRC, the reason we went with bradley is that klinsi wasn't interested.
          If the money is right he'll come. If the US wants to win bad enough they will find the money to hire him.
          "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
          —Abraham Maslow

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          • WashingtonCoug
            Monsters like me
            • Jan 2009
            • 1489

            #6
            Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
            Doesn't matter who they get. The US doesn't have the horses to compete at the top tier of international play.
            They may not have the horses to win the world cup, but they do have enough talent to make a run. They have been underachieving for the last 8 years.
            "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
            —Abraham Maslow

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            • BoylenOver
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 9146

              #7
              If not Klinsmann, I wouldn't mind seeing Louis Van Gaal.

              The structure of US Soccer isn't conducive to the success we're potentially capable of achieving. Talented players should be entering academies at 7 or 8 and training with them exclusively. No travel teams, no high school teams, no college teams.

              It also wouldn't surprise me to learn that there's no overriding vision among the U-17's, U-19's, U-21's, and the national team.
              "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
              "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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              • wuapinmon
                Soul Plumber
                • Dec 2008
                • 30711

                #8
                Honestly, I welcome this news. Something about his stoic leadership style bugs me. We can be a great team, contenders (though not champions at this point), if we develop some sense of what it means to be an "American" footballer.
                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • smokymountainrain
                  Impressive Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22593

                  #9
                  My guess is they feel like they have a good shot at Klinsmann right now, hence the timing of this dismissal.
                  I'm like LeBron James.
                  -mpfunk

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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                    Honestly, I welcome this news. Something about his stoic leadership style bugs me. We can be a great team, contenders (though not champions at this point), if we develop some sense of what it means to be an "American" footballer.
                    I don't know that we know what that is. We're still a very young soccer culture and we still don't get the best athletes our nation produces playing the beautiful game.

                    BO is right that the entire structure of USSF is not doing what it takes to make the national team a contender. There seems to be a lack of vision as to how to develop young soccer players to prepare them for the national team. The MLS academies and its development league is a step in the right direction, but that won't help qualify for 2012. I tend to think that problems USSF has aren't so much about who is coaching the national team, but more so how things are being run in Chicago. Ultimately the way that the USSF regulates and governs the game will determine "what it means to be an 'American' footballer."
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • MarkGrace
                      Grooveshark dick tease
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 31546

                      #11
                      Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                      My guess is they feel like they have a good shot at Klinsmann right now, hence the timing of this dismissal.
                      Haven't they always had a good shot at Klinsmann? Seems like he's always been ready to come as soon as they want him.
                      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                      • wuapinmon
                        Soul Plumber
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 30711

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                        I don't know that we know what that is. We're still a very young soccer culture and we still don't get the best athletes our nation produces playing the beautiful game.
                        This will always be a problem in our country, I think. I can only hope that with the increase in our Hispanic population, the focus (and dollars) will shift a little away from the Overpaid Four. I already think that baseball, basketball, and hockey are in trouble.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • BoylenOver
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 9146

                          #13
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          This will always be a problem in our country, I think. I can only hope that with the increase in our Hispanic population, the focus (and dollars) will shift a little away from the Overpaid Four. I already think that baseball, basketball, and hockey are in trouble.
                          I can't speak towards baseball or basketball (although I know baseball is struggling at the youth level), but I do know hockey is doing just fine. We're still behind Canada and probably Russia, but especially in "non-traditional" markets, more and more ice arenas are being built and more youth are playing.

                          this is anecdotal evidence, but there was a player born and raised in Orange County who was a top-ten draft pick last year.
                          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                          • jay santos
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 13652

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                            This will always be a problem in our country, I think. I can only hope that with the increase in our Hispanic population, the focus (and dollars) will shift a little away from the Overpaid Four. I already think that baseball, basketball, and hockey are in trouble.
                            I don't know how it works in other states. In Utah, only rich white kid soccer nerds play soccer. The athletes play football, baseball, and basketball. In soccer, they start in 3rd grade with "elite" teams that practice and play year round and require $800 fees. This effectually weeds out the athletes. And the rich, white kids have the sport to themselves. By the time they hit high school, they are highly skilled soccer players but at the end of the day they are still short, slow, and white.

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                            • Shaka
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 10444

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                              I can't speak towards baseball or basketball (although I know baseball is struggling at the youth level), but I do know hockey is doing just fine. We're still behind Canada and probably Russia, but especially in "non-traditional" markets, more and more ice arenas are being built and more youth are playing.

                              this is anecdotal evidence, but there was a player born and raised in Orange County who was a top-ten draft pick last year.

                              This is absolutely correct. Pro hockey is starting to find the players who are growing up outside the traditional hockey states. I was playing year round and coaching when they were building the hockey venues and practice facilities for the Olympics. Since they built the arenas the quality of play in Utah has skyrocketed. When I was a kid there were some good players but they were similar to the soccer guys Santos wrote about i.e. rich white kids that could afford to play on travel teams. Now that there are hockey arenas in several communities hockey is accessible to virtually anyone who wants to play. There are bunches of kids that want to play. The leagues are full and doing well. The regular rec leagues found at places like The Peaks are improving every year. There are now players from Utah making it in to Junior Hockey as well as collegiate programs.

                              Amazingly the price to play has dropped as well. The leagues still cost a pretty penny but it's not much more than football. The equipment costs have dropped too. When I was a kid between the league fees and equipment a parent could easily drop a thousand bucks. Now you can outfit a player for far less. No, the player will not have the latest in Graf skates but he will have a good pair of Bauer or CCM that will not limit his game, will last for a couple of years, and cost about the same as a high-end basketball shoe.

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