Joe Sheehan on the Manny Ramirez trade

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  • MartyFunkhouser
    Disciple of RNGesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 18713

    #1

    Joe Sheehan on the Manny Ramirez trade

    I guess I wasn't too far off with my initial reaction that it was a 4-5 win improvement for the Dodgers.

    "This is an excellent signing for the Dodgers. With the backup options all off of the market, they absolutely needed Ramirez in order to sustain a spot as the co-favorites in the NL West. The focus on signing Ramirez had consumed much of their winter, and while they re-signed Rafael Furcal, a lack of attention paid to the pitching staff left them needing to make up wins elsewhere. Put simply, the gap between Ramirez and Juan Pierre is 2.6 projected WARP, or about 2 ½ wins, and in a race like the NL West will be, those 2 ½ wins are as highly-leveraged as any you'll find.

    For a more visceral take on the effect, check out the projected standings. The Dodgers were projected at 85 wins and a second-place finish prior to Ramirez's return. Now, they project to 89 and the division title, with the D'backs dropping to 88 just a hair behind. That's why you pay $25 million for the left fielder, because he could put you into October."
    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
    --Kendrick Lamar
  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #2
    Just to clarify...a 4-5 win improvement on what? On their record from last year? Or a hypothetical improvement based on a hypothetical projected final regular season record?
    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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    • cougjunkie
      *Banned*
      • Nov 2008
      • 23223

      #3
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Just to clarify...a 4-5 win improvement on what? On their record from last year? Or a hypothetical improvement based on a hypothetical projected final regular season record?
      Option B.
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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        Option B.
        Oh.

        Well, in that case, I am predicting the ManRam will be worth an additional 20 wins for the club.

        There you have it. Case closed.
        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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        • MartyFunkhouser
          Disciple of RNGesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 18713

          #5
          DDD you are the perfect Dodger fan. junkie you should just convert over to a Dodger fan right now as you also fit in perfectly.
          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
          --Kendrick Lamar

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          • Hot Lunch
            Out of Office
            • Nov 2008
            • 7842

            #6
            Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
            DDD you are the perfect Dodger fan. junkie you should just convert over to a Dodger fan right now as you also fit in perfectly.
            You are definitely the perfect A's fan because of the hard on you get from OBP, WARP and all the other stats that Billy Beane pulls out of his ass.
            "Take it to the Bank"

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            • RockyBalboa
              Banned
              • Nov 2008
              • 2127

              #7
              I'm the perfect Reds fan, as I'm already resigned to the fact that we have no chance before opening day pitch.

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              • cougjunkie
                *Banned*
                • Nov 2008
                • 23223

                #8
                Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                DDD you are the perfect Dodger fan. junkie you should just convert over to a Dodger fan right now as you also fit in perfectly.
                Funk call me when you have followed baseball for more than 3 years. Also let me know when Moneyball wins the A's a championship.
                *Banned*

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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                  DDD you are the perfect Dodger fan.
                  that is a very nice thing to say, funk. thank you! i have loved the dodgers since I was a toddler so it means a lot to me to be recognized like this.
                  Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                  • MartyFunkhouser
                    Disciple of RNGesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18713

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    Funk call me when you have followed baseball for more than 3 years. Also let me know when Moneyball wins the A's a championship.
                    Call me when someone performs a single statistical study in baseball that shows anything other than luck being the largest factor in winning a World Series.
                    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                    --Kendrick Lamar

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                    • Flystripper
                      Degenerate Gambler
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 14087

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                      Call me when someone performs a single statistical study in baseball that shows anything other than luck being the largest factor in winning a World Series.
                      Hitting the ball better than your opponent, catching the ball better than your opponent, and pitching the ball better than your opponent are all luck. You are right.
                      Dyslexics are teople poo...

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