Looks like Manny is a physical away from being a Dodger

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  • Hot Lunch
    Out of Office
    • Nov 2008
    • 7842

    #1

    Looks like Manny is a physical away from being a Dodger



    I really like the Dodgers line-up this year. They have a young but solid pitching rotation.

    I am even more excited for the season to start.

    Go Dodgers.
    "Take it to the Bank"
  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25231

    #2
    I'm scared to death about the pitching rotation. And there is nothing young or solid about Randy Wolfe. But with Manny in the lineup, it's nice to know we won't have to keep the other team below 3 runs for a chance at a win.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

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    • Hot Lunch
      Out of Office
      • Nov 2008
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      #3
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      I'm scared to death about the pitching rotation. And there is nothing young or solid about Randy Wolfe. But with Manny in the lineup, it's nice to know we won't have to keep the other team below 3 runs for a chance at a win.
      For some reason I am not very scared. I love Bills and Kershaw. They are a year older and more experienced. Both will be considered a #1 guy in the rotation when they get 2 or 3 more years under their belt. It will also be Kurado's second year in the league and he was pretty solid last year. You are right about Wolfe nothing young about him. I am also excited about McDonald. Sounds like he is having a solid spring and he is another young talent on the staff. I can see why many are worried. Maybe I am just way to optimistic.
      "Take it to the Bank"

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      • MartyFunkhouser
        Disciple of RNGesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 18720

        #4
        Signing Manny is probably good for another 4-5 wins for the Dodgers. I hate seeing him on the Dodgers, but am glad that he will be sulking Manny with the Dodgers because of the value of his contract.

        I also hope that he exercises his player option so you cannot get Holliday for a long term contract.
        As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
        --Kendrick Lamar

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        • HuskyFreeNorthwest
          Time to camp
          • Nov 2008
          • 26082

          #5
          Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
          Signing Manny is probably good for another 4-5 wins for the Dodgers. I hate seeing him on the Dodgers, but am glad that he will be sulking Manny with the Dodgers because of the value of his contract.

          I also hope that he exercises his player option so you cannot get Holliday for a long term contract.
          Didn't you predict on CB last year that the trade for Manny would destroy the Dodgers?
          Get confident, stupid
          -landpoke

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          • Donuthole
            Official Outgayer
            • Nov 2008
            • 25231

            #6
            Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
            Didn't you predict on CB last year that the trade for Manny would destroy the Dodgers?
            Don't bother with mpfunk's past baseball predictions. Keep in mind he also liked the Andruw Jones signing. The reason he liked it was because it was only two years. FWIW, 2 years is the same length as the Manny contract. I just hope Manny can be more productive than Jones was.
            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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            • MartyFunkhouser
              Disciple of RNGesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 18720

              #7
              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
              Didn't you predict on CB last year that the trade for Manny would destroy the Dodgers?
              No I did not predict that. I stated that adding one of the 3 best hitters in baseball is a great move especially when it costs you nothing. I also pointed out that even with the Manny deal Ned Colletti still sucks as a GM.
              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
              --Kendrick Lamar

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              • MartyFunkhouser
                Disciple of RNGesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 18720

                #8
                Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                Don't bother with mpfunk's past baseball predictions. Keep in mind he also liked the Andruw Jones signing. The reason he liked it was because it was only two years. FWIW, 2 years is the same length as the Manny contract. I just hope Manny can be more productive than Jones was.
                Yes, I thought the Andruw Jones signing was a good deal because of the number of years. A lot of very intelligent baseball commentators (including Joe Sheehan) also thought it was a good deal. In fact, you probably would have been hard pressed to find many of the good baseball writers saying it was a bad deal.

                I also think the Manny deal is a great deal because you still are getting one of the best hitters in baseball, even if he is sulking Manny. I hope that he stays 2-years to take you out of the Holliday market.

                You know better than to think I would make a destroy the team chemistry in baseball prediction. Baseball is an individual game and chemistry and clubhouse presence is highly overrated. It is the type of stuff that guys like Colletti look at.
                As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                --Kendrick Lamar

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                • MartyFunkhouser
                  Disciple of RNGesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 18720

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                  For some reason I am not very scared. I love Bills and Kershaw. They are a year older and more experienced. Both will be considered a #1 guy in the rotation when they get 2 or 3 more years under their belt. It will also be Kurado's second year in the league and he was pretty solid last year. You are right about Wolfe nothing young about him. I am also excited about McDonald. Sounds like he is having a solid spring and he is another young talent on the staff. I can see why many are worried. Maybe I am just way to optimistic.
                  The Dodgers staff will be competent. It is not going to be a terrible staff by any means, but it isn't going to win you games. With Manny you will have the offense to win games. It will be a coin toss between the Diamondbacks and Dodgers as to who wins the division.

                  PECOTA projections on Dodger pitching:

                  Pos Name IP GS QS ERA WHIP H BB HR SO W L SV VORP
                  Starter-1 Chad Billingsley 180 28 17 3.55 1.31 163 73 16 173 12 8 0 35.0
                  Starter-2 Hiroki Kuroda 175 28 15 4.16 1.31 187 43 19 106 11 10 0 21.9
                  Starter-3 Clayton Kershaw 155 27 15 4.00 1.41 143 75 15 144 10 8 0 23.6
                  Starter-4 Jason Schmidt 65 13 6 4.88 1.48 67 29 9 50 3 4 0 3.4
                  Starter-5 Randy Wolf 145 24 12 4.47 1.41 148 58 19 119 8 8 0 14.6
                  Last edited by MartyFunkhouser; 03-04-2009, 12:01 PM.
                  As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                  --Kendrick Lamar

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                  • Donuthole
                    Official Outgayer
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 25231

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    Yes, I thought the Andruw Jones signing was a good deal because of the number of years. A lot of very intelligent baseball commentators (including Joe Sheehan) also thought it was a good deal. In fact, you probably would have been hard pressed to find many of the good baseball writers saying it was a bad deal.

                    I also think the Manny deal is a great deal because you still are getting one of the best hitters in baseball, even if he is sulking Manny. I hope that he stays 2-years to take you out of the Holliday market.

                    You know better than to think I would make a destroy the team chemistry in baseball prediction. Baseball is an individual game and chemistry and clubhouse presence is highly overrated. It is the type of stuff that guys like Colletti look at.
                    Well color me smarter than a lot of very intelligent baseball commentators (including Joe Sheehan).

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                    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                      The Dodgers staff will be competent. It is not going to be a terrible staff by any means, but it isn't going to win you games. With Manny you will have the offense to win games. It will be a coin toss between the Diamondbacks and Dodgers as to who wins the division.

                      PECOTA projections on Dodger pitching:

                      Pos Name IP GS QS ERA WHIP H BB HR SO W L SV VORP
                      Starter-1 Chad Billingsley 180 28 17 3.55 1.31 163 73 16 173 12 8 0 35.0
                      Starter-2 Hiroki Kuroda 175 28 15 4.16 1.31 187 43 19 106 11 10 0 21.9
                      Starter-3 Clayton Kershaw 155 27 15 4.00 1.41 143 75 15 144 10 8 0 23.6
                      Starter-4 Jason Schmidt 65 13 6 4.88 1.48 67 29 9 50 3 4 0 3.4
                      Starter-5 Randy Wolf 145 24 12 4.47 1.41 148 58 19 119 8 8 0 14.6
                      I initially thought that seeing it in a larger font would somehow make it seem better, but as it turns out, I am still uncomfortable with that rotation.
                      Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                      • Hot Lunch
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                        • Nov 2008
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                        Signing Manny is probably good for another 4-5 wins for the Dodgers. I hate seeing him on the Dodgers, but am glad that he will be sulking Manny with the Dodgers because of the value of his contract.

                        I also hope that he exercises his player option so you cannot get Holliday for a long term contract.
                        Only 4-5 wins?
                        "Take it to the Bank"

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                        • Hot Lunch
                          Out of Office
                          • Nov 2008
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                          #13
                          [QUOTE=mpfunk;46036

                          I also hope that he exercises his player option so you cannot get Holliday for a long term contract.[/QUOTE]

                          You know he isn't staying in Oakland to continue play in the minor leagues. The Dodgers can just trade your boy Andre Eithier to make some room for Matt in the outfield if Manny doesn't opt out.
                          "Take it to the Bank"

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                          • Hsaru
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1109

                            #14
                            He got the 4-5 wins by plugging it into his baseball calculator, it's very accurate.

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                            • MartyFunkhouser
                              Disciple of RNGesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18720

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
                              He got the 4-5 wins by plugging it into his baseball calculator, it's very accurate.
                              I am not plugging it into my baseball calculator, I am looking at Bill James' baseball calculator.

                              Well his total win shares last year was 34 which would translate to roughly 11 wins added. His win shares for his time with the Dodgers was 19. I guess since he is only crowding out Juan Pierre it isn't like the ABs he is taking from Pierre are all that consequential.

                              So I stand corrected he is probably worth more than 5 wins to the Dodgers.
                              As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                              --Kendrick Lamar

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