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  • MarkGrace
    Grooveshark dick tease
    • Dec 2008
    • 31546

    #3646
    Big-Money Busts?

    Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento Kings

    The Jimmer would earn $3.1 million under the terms of his Year 4 option, and you can get better players for that kind of money. Mike Malone, the team's new head coach, put the kibosh on the whole "Jimmer is a point guard!" thing over the weekend by excluding him from Malone's personal list of point guards on the roster.

    Everyone knows Fredette's issues on defense. The Kings have to hide him on either a punchless (and hopefully undersize) wing player, and if that option is unavailable, pray the opposing point guard is among the league's least threatening. But even non-threats become dangerous against the most glaring defensive liabilities. Bigger shooting guards without much off-the-dribble panache — think Danny Green or Thabo Sefolosha — can see the rim better over diminutive Jimmer, and point guards without night-to-night post-up games can fulfill their fantasies in the paint against him. Waterbug point guards know they can leave Jimmer in the dust on pick-and-rolls; he gets hung up badly on screens, and lacks the start-and-stop speed to catch up:

    But the man can shoot, and teams need shooting more than ever against defenses that overload the strong side and focus on taking away a team's best options. Jimmer works best as an off-ball shooter, but playing the passive spot-up role requires someone else to play point guard, and most Jimmer–point guard combinations will be borderline unplayable defensively.5

    But Jimmer can handle the ball fairly well. Defenders have to go over screens against him in the pick-and-roll, presenting Jimmer with the shot that will keep him relevant: the off-the-dribble 3-pointer in situations like this:

    The key might be what else he can do with the ball, especially when defenses take away that off-the-bounce triple. Big men guarding screeners step beyond their comfort zones to combat Jimmer's shooting, just as they do against Stephen Curry, and Jimmer can take advantage by turning the corner on them or splitting traps:

    He's been able to get into the lane now and then for floaters or drop-off passes to big men lurking along the baseline.

    The flip side: When a pick-and-roll doesn't produce an easy opening, either via shaky help defense or a rock-solid screen that nails Jimmer's guy, he doesn't have the jets to produce much of value. Defenders can stay with him and block off the lane, resulting in very tough leaners and step-back jumpers. He has few weapons with which he can puncture the heart of a defense. If Jimmer can bag the ultra-tough misses and focus on the good, he's got a role in the league. But given his massive disadvantage on defense, it's probably not a role that should ever pay $3.1 million.

    That price matters to Sacto. The Kings aren't actually slated to have any cap room next summer once you factor in cap holds for Cousins, Greivis Vasquez, and Patrick Patterson, and even if you assume they renounce the latter two and buy out John Salmons, they'll still come in only about $5 million under the projected cap.

    Other teams are circling, curious whether they can land the heralded Jimmer for a song — a no-harm, no-foul gamble. Will the Kings bite?
    So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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    • cougjunkie
      *Banned*
      • Nov 2008
      • 23223

      #3647
      Kings owner challenge UCSB students to beat Jimmer in 3pt contest and receive tickets to any game anywhere in the country. The students didn't beat him but Chris Mullin did.



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      • Surfah
        Where's Wallace?
        • Nov 2008
        • 33726

        #3648
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        Kings owner challenge UCSB students to beat Jimmer in 3pt contest and receive tickets to any game anywhere in the country. The students didn't beat him but Chris Mullin did.



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        I forget how much of a baller Mullin was.
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        • cougjunkie
          *Banned*
          • Nov 2008
          • 23223

          #3649
          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          I forget how much of a baller Mullin was.
          You are racist.
          *Banned*

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          • creekster
            It is NOT a monkey!
            • Nov 2008
            • 22661

            #3650
            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
            I forget how much of a baller Mullin was.
            He was Jimmer before there was a Jimmer.
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
              Time to camp
              • Nov 2008
              • 26082

              #3651
              Originally posted by creekster View Post
              He was Jimmer before there was a Jimmer.
              It looks like possibly he is still Jimmer after there is a Jimmer, at least from what junkie posted.
              Get confident, stupid
              -landpoke

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #3652
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                You are racist.
                It's not like I watched a lot of GSW growing up. Even the Run TMC team wasn't great.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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                • MarkGrace
                  Grooveshark dick tease
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 31546

                  #3653
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  I forget how much of a baller Mullin was.
                  They just let any old slouch on the greatest team ever assembled.
                  So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                  • cougjunkie
                    *Banned*
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 23223

                    #3654
                    Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                    They just let any old slouch on the greatest team ever assembled.
                    Signed,

                    Christian Laettner
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                    • MarkGrace
                      Grooveshark dick tease
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 31546

                      #3655
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Signed,

                      Christian Laettner
                      ha. True.
                      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                      • cougjunkie
                        *Banned*
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 23223

                        #3656
                        Glad to see the Kings start the same sorry lineup as last year. Thomas, Thornton, Salmons, Thompson and Cousins. Those guys were great last year good idea to keep that rotation.

                        The Kings refused to trade Jimmer in the off season yet he can't get off the bench in a preseason game. First pg off the bench with Vazquez out is rookie Ray McCallum.

                        I know I am a huge Jimmer homer but this frustrates me to no end.

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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #3657
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Glad to see the Kings start the same sorry lineup as last year. Thomas, Thornton, Salmons, Thompson and Cousins. Those guys were great last year good idea to keep that rotation.

                          The Kings refused to trade Jimmer in the off season yet he can't get off the bench in a preseason game. First pg off the bench with Vazquez out is rookie Ray McCallum.

                          I know I am a huge Jimmer homer but this frustrates me to no end.

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                          Same thought when they trotted out that starting lineup. If Jimmer can't even get off the bench when Vasquez is out I'm not sure he'll ever play. I effing hate this franchise. Seattle should feel fortunate the owners shot down the move. Sacramento deserves this piece of shit team.
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                          • cougjunkie
                            *Banned*
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 23223

                            #3658
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            Same thought when they trotted out that starting lineup. If Jimmer can't even get off the bench when Vasquez is out I'm not sure he'll ever play. I effing hate this franchise. Seattle should feel fortunate the owners shot down the move. Sacramento deserves this piece of shit team.
                            They get blown out again. Shocker.

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                            • Pelado
                              Bald not naked
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 21139

                              #3659
                              New coach, same PT.
                              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                              - Goatnapper'96

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                              • cougjunkie
                                *Banned*
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 23223

                                #3660
                                Brandon Davies played 7 min and had 2 points and 2 boards. His one bucket was an alley oop dunk.

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