Not so Melo in Denver?

[Sizzle]

Carmelo allegedly wants out of Denver. Rumors are linking him to New York. As a Jazz fan, you have to love that news. Although Melo really doesn't make his team much better. He is like a better shooting but worse dunking Dominique Wilkins.

[FN Phat]

Carmelo allegedly wants out of Denver. Rumors are linking him to New York. As a Jazz fan, you have to love that news. Although Melo really doesn't make his team much better. He is like a better shooting but worse dunking Dominique Wilkins.

Are you being serious?

[Sizzle]

Are you being serious?

About what?

[Flystripper]

About what?

I agree about Melo but FN won't see it cause his blood is orange.

[Surfah]

So the Jazz wouldn't be better with Melo?

[Flystripper]

So the Jazz wouldn't be better with Melo?

they would be better but not "much better"

[Sizzle]

So the Jazz wouldn't be better with Melo?

Better than with CJ Miles? Yeah, probably.

I may have overstated in my initial post but the fact remains that I think Melo to this point in his career is overrated when it translates to wins and losses. I think he puts up great numbers but he utilizes a lot of his teams possessions and doesn't convert at an overly high rate to justify the shots he takes.

Is he a better player than any wing on the Jazz roster? Absolutely. But I'm not sold that he is a true franchise player (granted, I think there are maybe 10 in the NBA now) and I think the Dominique comparisons are apt.

[Surfah]

Better than with CJ Miles? Yeah, probably.

I may have overstated in my initial post but the fact remains that I think Melo to this point in his career is overrated when it translates to wins and losses. I think he puts up great numbers but he utilizes a lot of his teams possessions and doesn't convert at an overly high rate to justify the shots he takes.

Is he a better player than any wing on the Jazz roster? Absolutely. But I'm not sold that he is a true franchise player (granted, I think there are maybe 10 in the NBA now) and I think the Dominique comparisons are apt.

So if Denver isn't able to deal him and he leaves for nothing are the Nuggets still a playoff team?

[FN Phat]

So if Denver isn't able to deal him and he leaves for nothing are the Nuggets still a playoff team?

I do see life through orange goggles but the answer is no. Not in the WC. Sizzle is just hatin'. Name 10 franchise players you would build a team, without including Melo. I just can't see that.

[Donuthole]

I do see life through orange goggles but the answer is no. Not in the WC. Sizzle is just hatin'. Name 10 franchise players you would build a team, without including Melo. I just can't see that.

Kobe
Wade
LeBron
Durant
Williams
Paul
Howard
Nowitski
Gasol
Wall

[old_gregg]

Wall? Seriously? The kid who hasn't played one NBA minute?

[Donuthole]

Wall? Seriously? The kid who hasn't played one NBA minute?

I would have put Nash, but FN would say he's too old to build a franchise around. Still, I'll take a top tier PG or Big as the foundation of my team over a top-tier SG/SF, unless that SG is Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant. Also, I could have gone with Derrick Rose, but I think he's almost as overrated as Melo. Sadly, I think Duncan's day has passed. RIP, Timmy.

[old_gregg]

You would take wall before dwill and Brandon Roy?

[Donuthole]

You would take wall before dwill and Brandon Roy?

I included Williams on my list. I would take Wall before Roy's bad knee, most likely. If Roy were really a franchise player, would Portland be signing guys like Wes Matthews to 35 mil contracts?

[Sizzle]

I do see life through orange goggles but the answer is no. Not in the WC. Sizzle is just hatin'. Name 10 franchise players you would build a team, without including Melo. I just can't see that.

Top Five:
James
Wade
Bryant
Durant
Howard

Next group:
Paul
Williams
Dirk
Pau
Roy

I would probably put Melo at the top of the next group that includes Bosh, Brook Lopez, Boozer, etc. He's a good player, but I think his view is inflated by taking more shots and not doing anything else great. I still stand by my claim that he is like Dominique Wilkins with a jumper instead if dunking.