MLB HoF includes

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Jim Rice and Rickey Henderson.

Take that scoop all you baseball guys!

[MartyFunkhouser]

Somehow Bert Blyleven doesn't make it again. The BBWAA are idiots.

[cougjunkie]

Jim Rice and Rickey Henderson.

Take that scoop all you baseball guys!

Jim Rice is a joke.

Ricky the greatest leadoff hitter of all time deserves it and I was there when he stole 939.

[il Padrino Ute]

Nice work, ScoopNorthWest.

No surprise about Henderson. He's only the greatest leadoff man in the game's history.

It's about time with Rice. He should have been in a long time ago.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

It's about time with Rice. He should have been in a long time ago.

So given that I really don't follow baseball, I can barely name 5 guys on my fantasy team. Is it just the LDS in me that thinks Murphy should be in? To the untrained eye like my own, I see little difference between Murphy and Rice.

[cougjunkie]

So given that I really don't follow baseball, I can barely name 5 guys on my fantasy team. Is it just the LDS in me that thinks Murphy should be in? To the untrained eye like my own, I see little difference between Murphy and Rice.

There is no difference thats why neither one should be in.

[MartyFunkhouser]

There is no difference thats why neither one should be in.

Exactly, Jim Rice does not belong in the Hall of Fame and neither does Dale Murphy. Hell, Murphy may even deserve it over Rice and I have always claimed Murphy is undeserving.

[TripletDaddy]

My HOF fantasy:

I want to go to Cooperstown in the summer. Has to be a busy day. Hopefully lots of people, young and old, are there looking through the exhibits.

I stand up on a chair or a bench in the middle of everyone and begin to sing in loud voice......"Batter up....hear that call...the time has come....for one and all....."

If I can get just ONE person in that entire building to stop, turn, and harmonize with me, singing, ".....to PLAAAAAAAAY BALL," it will have been worth my trip.

That is my HOF fantasy.

This is a sweet clip of what it must have been like to be around a locker full of lesbians in an era before lesbians were loved and respected like they are today.

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[MartyFunkhouser]

DDD I expected your Hall of Fame Fantasy to be slightly different than what you described. I was with you up to the point where you stand on the bench of chair, this is where it deviates. Rather than singing "Batter up . . . hear that call," I expected you to instead start singing "Oooh, yaaah. Come on let's rock tonight. We're going, right out of our minds. Come on let's boogie tonight. Baseball boogie tonight."

[MartyFunkhouser]

I also have a relevant video.

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[il Padrino Ute]

The reason I think both Rice and Murphy should be in the HoF is because of their overall ability to play game. Most folks think of offense when it comes to credentials, the exception being pitchers.

Rice and Murphy were both good offensive players, but they were outstanding defensive players as well. Ozzie Smith got in on defense alone and deservedly so.

[cougjunkie]

The reason I think both Rice and Murphy should be in the HoF is because of their overall ability to play game. Most folks think of offense when it comes to credentials, the exception being pitchers.

Rice and Murphy were both good offensive players, but they were outstanding defensive players as well. Ozzie Smith got in on defense alone and deservedly so.

Jim Rice was protected by the green monster for most of his career.

Also he never won a gold glove, and according to baseball reference the players that his career is like are: Ellis Burks, Joe Carter, and Andres Galarraga are they hall of famers?

[MartyFunkhouser]

Jim Rice was protected by the green monster for most of his career.

Also he never won a gold glove, and according to baseball reference the players that his career is like are: Ellis Burks, Joe Carter, and Andres Galarraga are they hall of famers?

Gold Gloves should never be used in evaluating if a player was good defensively or not. Among sham awards the Gold Glove may be the second biggest sham, the Oscars being the biggest.

[il Padrino Ute]

Jim Rice was protected by the green monster for most of his career.

Also he never won a gold glove, and according to baseball reference the players that his career is like are: Ellis Burks, Joe Carter, and Andres Galarraga are they hall of famers?

The Green Monster didn't help him at all. If you think it did, you're underestimating how difficult it really is to play a carom off of that wall, especially in the wind.

Gold Gloves in the OF are not a good standard to measure OF defense. They don't award Gold Gloves for specific OF positions, just the general OF. There have only been 19 Gold Glove winners in LF in the AL. Earstad got a Gold Glove in 2000 when he played LF. The last guy to in LF to get it was Dave Winfield in '83. Unfortunately for MLB players, LF is like RF in little league. You put the guy in there and just hope he doesn't screw up.

When I say outstanding defense, these are the numbers for Rice for his career (1543 games played as an OF):

137 assists
66 errors
.980 fielding percentage

Compare those numbers to Ozzie, who is considered the greatest SS ever (2511 games):

8375 assists (as SS, we know there will be far more assist opportunities)
281 errors
.978 fielding percentage

Rice was a helluva defensive player. Combined with his good offensive game, IMO, he's a HoF guy,

[TripletDaddy]

one cool thing about going to see the Monstah in person....you can see all the dents in the wall from fly balls banging into it.

hard to see from this angle, but this was me looking directly down the Green Monster