McGwire admits using steroids

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  • YOhio
    Hipster Mode
    • Nov 2008
    • 26165

    #16
    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Rick Sutcliffe said tonight that Mcgwires line about protecting his family is ridiculous because the year before he entered the majors the all-star first baseman in 1986 was Wally Joyner, the next 6 years it was Big Mac. He said what about Wallys family? How much money did Mac cost Wally?

    (Didnt Wally admit to steroid use as well?)
    Wally used for two weeks, then came clean to his team. IIRC, he confessed in an ESPN/Mag article a few years ago.

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    • Hallelujah
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 2741

      #17
      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      The timing is because he was just hired as the Hitting coach for the Cardinals and Tony LaRussa has even thrown out the idea of him pinch hitting. He is most likely out of money and is trying to get back in the good graces of baseball so that he can make a living.
      His coming out has EVERYTHING to do with his hitting coach gig. The Cardinals didn't want him to be a distraction once he joined. He could have come clean before the congressional committee.

      Naturally his home run title is tainted, BIG TIME.

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      • Coach McGuirk
        1
        • Nov 2008
        • 12109

        #18

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        • DrumNFeather
          Invisible Swordsman
          • Nov 2008
          • 8854

          #19
          If what he says is true in regards to the players not receiving immunity, then he did the right thing in not admitting it at the time. I'm pretty surprised that he and others weren't granted ammunity given the circumstancs. Just goes to show that it was more of a witch hunt than it was an effort to get the word out about steroids.

          I've said it 1000 times. Baseball has a rich history of cheating and it needs to embrace it. Like it or not, that 98 season saved baseball, and as much as I would like to think it was Cal Ripken, it was far more McGuire and Sosa.
          "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

          Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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          • Fiyero
            Banned
            • Nov 2008
            • 5266

            #20
            So is Maris still the home run king? Considering that Bonds, McGwire and Sosa's were all on the juice.

            73 Bonds
            70 McGwire
            66 Sosa
            65 McGwire
            64 Sosa
            63 Sosa
            61 Maris

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            • Coach McGuirk
              1
              • Nov 2008
              • 12109

              #21
              So McGwire won't give the whole story, But Canseco will!

              Jose Canseco: Mark McGwire, Tony La Russa lying about PEDs - ESPN

              "I've got no problems with a few of the things he's saying, but again, it's ironic and strange that Mark McGwire denies that I injected him with steroids. He's calling me a liar again," Canseco said Tuesday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "I've defended Mark, I've said a lot of good things about him, but I can't believe he just called me a liar.
              "There is something very strange going on here, and I'm wondering what it is. I even polygraphed that subject matter, that I injected him, and passed it completely. So I want to challenge him on national TV to a polygraph examination. I want to see him call me a liar under a polygraph examination."

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              • DrumNFeather
                Invisible Swordsman
                • Nov 2008
                • 8854

                #22
                Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                So McGwire won't give the whole story, But Canseco will!

                Jose Canseco: Mark McGwire, Tony La Russa lying about PEDs - ESPN
                Poor Jose.
                "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                • Pheidippides
                  Liberal Feminazi
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14759

                  #23
                  Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                  Poor Jose.
                  Trying to drum up some sympathy, since he didn't get any when Vai whipped his ass.
                  Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                  • Surfah
                    Where's Wallace?
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 33726

                    #24
                    Hate on Canseco. But I love him.
                    "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                    -Turtle
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                    • DrumNFeather
                      Invisible Swordsman
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 8854

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                      Hate on Canseco. But I love him.
                      I thought Mike Wise said it best about Jose. "Just because he was right about other guys being frauds doesn't make him any less of a fraud." If baseball would just grant him his 500th home run, he might go away.
                      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                      • Surfah
                        Where's Wallace?
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 33726

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                        I thought Mike Wise said it best about Jose. "Just because he was right about other guys being frauds doesn't make him any less of a fraud." If baseball would just grant him his 500th home run, he might go away.
                        Amen. Then maybe all my Canseco rookie cards will be worth a damn.
                        "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                        -Turtle
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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #27
                          I can't believe there are still some here openly doubting The Oracle on this issue. He has proven to be the most reliable source on the steroid issue, bar none. Nobody else has come close to getting it as right as Canseco.

                          That he also cheated doesn't make his predictions any less accurate.

                          Big Mac shot up in the toilet. No doubt. If Canseco says it is true, I am not going to doubt it. Mac already admitted to taking them. Why is not believable that Canseco was the one with the syringe?

                          Next up: BONDS.

                          And then we can put asterisks next to everything. I saw a list of the Top 10 HR hitters of all time....4 or 5 were associated with steroids. What a joke.
                          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                          • Jarid in Cedar
                            CS Institutional Memory
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 13234

                            #28
                            I wonder how Jack Clark really feels about this:

                            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                            -Rick Majerus

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                            • Coach McGuirk
                              1
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12109

                              #29
                              If you are going to admit to something, go all the way.

                              Dealer contradicts Mark McGwire's reason for steroids - ESPN

                              A convicted drug dealer who says he used to supply steroids to former baseball slugger Mark McGwire told ESPN on Thursday that McGwire's goal was to get "bigger, faster, stronger" to improve his performance on the field, contradicting recent statements by McGwire, who said he used the drugs to maintain his health.

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                              • Surfah
                                Where's Wallace?
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 33726

                                #30
                                McGwire is like John Edwards. Just come out with it all and be done.

                                And JIC I saw that interview with Jack Clark. Holy crap has time been brutal to him. He looked like shit.
                                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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