TdF Question

[Borg]

Ok...so, just wondering. How does LA stay in 3rd place with the same .08 seconds back in like 3 different stages?

Seems odd that for 3 consecutive days, he finishes exactly .08 seconds behind the leader? How does that happen?

[Coach McGuirk]

Ok...so, just wondering. How does LA stay in 3rd place with the same .08 seconds back in like 3 different stages?

Seems odd that for 3 consecutive days, he finishes exactly .08 seconds behind the leader? How does that happen?

as long as their are no gaps in the group that crosses the line, they are all awarded the same time. So the guy in the front of the pelaton could actually finish in front of the last guy by 20 seconds or so, but to avoid what would be a dangerous massive sprint at the end of each stage, they give everyone the same time.

Hope that makes sense.

[Borg]

Ahhh...I can see how that is a wise decision by the race directors.

If not,...there would be a massive pileup just in front of the finish line!

Thanks

[Clark Addison]

Related to that, I was wondering how the pelaton is defined? How far behind it do you need to be in order to be considered NOT a part of it, and get a worse time? 10 feet? 50 feet? a quarter mile? Is there a set distance or is it a judgment call? Or is it a stupid question that never is a problem?

[Coach McGuirk]

Related to that, I was wondering how the pelaton is defined? How far behind it do you need to be in order to be considered NOT a part of it, and get a worse time? 10 feet? 50 feet? a quarter mile? Is there a set distance or is it a judgment call? Or is it a stupid question that never is a problem?

If I remember correctly it is a 2 second split. Creekster, correct me if I am worng. But I know it is measured in time.

[Eddie]

Another question -

Is this true for other groups of riders as well? Or just the main peleton?

Meaning, if there is a break away group of 8 riders that take off and all cross the line within a couple of seconds of each other - obviously the first one across the line is the stage winner, but do all 8 riders get the same time if they were all right there?

Or if a group of 15-20 riders dropped out the back of the peleton and come in a minute later, so those riders all get the same time as a group? Or is each riders exact time of crossing the finish line tracked?

Finally - if it's not just the main peleton that all gets the same time, how do they decide how big of a group you have to be to do that? Or does any group of 2 or more get the same time?

Just curious.

[Coach McGuirk]

Another question -

Is this true for other groups of riders as well? Or just the main peleton?

Meaning, if there is a break away group of 8 riders that take off and all cross the line within a couple of seconds of each other - obviously the first one across the line is the stage winner, but do all 8 riders get the same time if they were all right there?

Or if a group of 15-20 riders dropped out the back of the peleton and come in a minute later, so those riders all get the same time as a group? Or is each riders exact time of crossing the finish line tracked?

Finally - if it's not just the main peleton that all gets the same time, how do they decide how big of a group you have to be to do that? Or does any group of 2 or more get the same time?

Just curious.

It is for each group of riders. So if there was a group of 10 riders and there was less than a 2 second gap between any of the individual riders, then the group would get the same time.

But let's say that rider #7 was 3 seconds behind rider #6. Then rider seven would get a new time of when he crossed the finish line, along with any rider that crossed the finishline behind him, as long as the gap was less than 2 seconds from the preceding finisher.

Whew.

[bluegoose]

Another question -

Is this true for other groups of riders as well? Or just the main peleton?

Meaning, if there is a break away group of 8 riders that take off and all cross the line within a couple of seconds of each other - obviously the first one across the line is the stage winner, but do all 8 riders get the same time if they were all right there?

Or if a group of 15-20 riders dropped out the back of the peleton and come in a minute later, so those riders all get the same time as a group? Or is each riders exact time of crossing the finish line tracked?

Finally - if it's not just the main peleton that all gets the same time, how do they decide how big of a group you have to be to do that? Or does any group of 2 or more get the same time?

Just curious.

Any group that comes in together gets the same time, whether its 2 guys or 150.

Like coach, I'm not sure how big of a gap they'll allow to be counted with the guy in front of you, but my experience is its pretty obvious, in the range of a couple of seconds.

[Surfah]

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I only got to jump in and out of today's stage. What happened with Cadel Evans at the end? He wrecked but because it happened inside of 3km to the finish line he gets the same time or what?

[Coach McGuirk]

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I only got to jump in and out of today's stage. What happened with Cadel Evans at the end? He wrecked but because it happened inside of 3km to the finish line he gets the same time or what?

Yes, another rule of the bunch sprint dangers.

[bluegoose]

I only got to jump in and out of today's stage. What happened with Cadel Evans at the end? He wrecked but because it happened inside of 3km to the finish line he gets the same time or what?

Yes, it cuts down on the craziness at the often-narrow finish lines by stringing out the peleton. Often times you'll see much of the group sit up and cruise to the finish once they pass the 3km banner.

Vlad Karpets should have done that yesterday but instead hit the second to last corner too fast and ended up with a face-full of crash barrier, and not the soft kind either.

[SteelBlue]

I'm wanting a little clarification on the 3k rule as it used to be 1k. As long as you are within 3k of the finish before the peleton finishes you get the peleton's time right? And obviously if you finish more than 2 seconds ahead of the peleton then you gain time on them. I'm thinking mainly of a rider who may be a full minute behind the peleton (not from a crash but just falling off the back) but is within 3k before they finish. Will he still get their time?

[RC Vikings]

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[scottie]

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Phil Liggett is a great announcer, love him.

[myboynoah]

I'm wanting a little clarification on the 3k rule as it used to be 1k. As long as you are within 3k of the finish before the peleton finishes you get the peleton's time right? And obviously if you finish more than 2 seconds ahead of the peleton then you gain time on them. I'm thinking mainly of a rider who may be a full minute behind the peleton (not from a crash but just falling off the back) but is within 3k before they finish. Will he still get their time?

My understanding is that once the rider crosses under the 3k flag with the peleton, he gets the same time if he crashes. Yes, it used to be 1k, but was extended to 3k a couple of tours ago.

Levi was part of that crash today as well.