Stage 9: And Then There Were Two

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  • creekster
    It is NOT a monkey!
    • Nov 2008
    • 22661

    #1

    Stage 9: And Then There Were Two

    We are not even half way into the race this year and already it is a two-man race for the yellow jersey. Nearly 200 riders started the race, over 180 are still left, and yet everyone knows that, barring injury, crash or extreme mechanical, only Schleck and Contador can win it this year. Yet, the race for third on the podium will still be interesting, and the drama of the race will begin each day anew.

    Contador was in fine form today. He looked more like the 2009 winner as he began to dance on the pedals in the mid slopes of the Col de la Madeleine. He was able to answer every challenge thrown at him by Andy with never an apparent chink in his armor. And yet . . . why didn’t he ever counter attack? It is true he would not want the burden of defending Yellow this early in the race, but why not attack once or twice just to let Schleck know? Perhaps this year he simply doesn’t have the extra gear that he had last year. Or perhaps Schleck found the same extra gear. If these two stay so evenly matched we will be in for a great race. Contador should still manage to win due to his time trailing abilities, but what a race through the Pyrenees it will be.

    Shleck is a kid who is easy to like. He seems exuberant like a kid in a candy store and still relatively humble. AS Mtn Biker noted in the contest thread, he had the comment of the day, saying that if he had attacked one more time he would have dropped himself. In that same interview he was asked if he was testing Contador; he looked a little incredulous and said he wasn’t testing, he was putting all his cards on the table and, sticking with the gambling theme, noted that he was ‘all in.’ Not long ago it looked like Contador might dominate the grand tours for a few years. I am glad that Andy is fulfilling his promise and giving El Pistolero a challenge. May he do so all the way to Paris.

    Schleck, who as we saw today is NOT a good descender, also said in an interview that his mother always paces when he is descending so because his strategy was to not take any risks on the descent, he asked Bjarne Riis to call his mother at home in Luxembourg and tell her he would not take any risks so she would not worry. How can you not like this kid?

    And I would disagree mildly with those who think the climb was easy for these guys. This was no ride in the park. If you saw the post race shot of Schleck collapsed by his team bus, head in hands looking like he was ready to pass out, you know that the stage takes a lot out of them. One of the things these guys can do that most of us duffers cant is commit themselves completely. When they say they are all in, they mean it.

    Levi rode a great race. The oracle at Delphi offered wisdom in two words: “Know Thyself.” Levi showed us how important that can be for us. He was riding with the Schleck and Contador group today and then, as Schleck began his attacks, he was shot out the back. It looked like he was dropped and that he might be in trouble. Not so. After the race Levi noted he had stayed with Schleck/Contador to long. If he had stayed there longer he WOULD have blown up. In other words Levi knows he can never climb with those two guys. That is not his race. He is a tempo climber. He can set a pace and hold it all the way up the mountain, but he is not an explosive climber. If he tried to match their accelerations, he would fail. Many times in the past we have seen Levi get dropped early on a mountain stage only to pace himself back into it as the climb continues. I expect to se him do this in the Pyrenees. Don’t forget, he has done very well in the vuelta in the past (2d in 2003). He knows those mountains well. Levi could still podium.

    Lance showed pretty much what everyone thought; he looks to be about a top ten guy this year, at best. Without the fall that is about where he would be. Nothing wrong with that. My guess is that the French will suddenly adore him. They always like the Poulidor-type almost but not quite winner the most. Speaking of the French and Lance, who would have thought that at stage nine of the race Lance would trail not one, not two, not even three, but FIVE French riders in the GC? Yikes.

    A shout out (hola?) to Sammy Sanchez. The Olympic gold medal road race winner acquitted himself well today. He never quit, climbed well and rode his heart out to the line. Not quite enough to podium, but enough to earn my respect.

    Tomorrow will be a transition stage. Bonne chance!

    P.s. sorry this is so late; work duties called this morning.
    PLesa excuse the tpyos.
  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    We are not even half way into the race this year and already it is a two-man race for the yellow jersey. Nearly 200 riders started the race, over 180 are still left, and yet everyone knows that, barring injury, crash or extreme mechanical, only Schleck and Contador can win it this year. Yet, the race for third on the podium will still be interesting, and the drama of the race will begin each day anew.

    Contador was in fine form today. He looked more like the 2009 winner as he began to dance on the pedals in the mid slopes of the Col de la Madeleine. He was able to answer every challenge thrown at him by Andy with never an apparent chink in his armor. And yet . . . why didn’t he ever counter attack? It is true he would not want the burden of defending Yellow this early in the race, but why not attack once or twice just to let Schleck know? Perhaps this year he simply doesn’t have the extra gear that he had last year. Or perhaps Schleck found the same extra gear. If these two stay so evenly matched we will be in for a great race. Contador should still manage to win due to his time trailing abilities, but what a race through the Pyrenees it will be.

    Shleck is a kid who is easy to like. He seems exuberant like a kid in a candy store and still relatively humble. AS Mtn Biker noted in the contest thread, he had the comment of the day, saying that if he had attacked one more time he would have dropped himself. In that same interview he was asked if he was testing Contador; he looked a little incredulous and said he wasn’t testing, he was putting all his cards on the table and, sticking with the gambling theme, noted that he was ‘all in.’ Not long ago it looked like Contador might dominate the grand tours for a few years. I am glad that Andy is fulfilling his promise and giving El Pistolero a challenge. May he do so all the way to Paris.

    Schleck, who as we saw today is NOT a good descender, also said in an interview that his mother always paces when he is descending so because his strategy was to not take any risks on the descent, he asked Bjarne Riis to call his mother at home in Luxembourg and tell her he would not take any risks so she would not worry. How can you not like this kid?

    And I would disagree mildly with those who think the climb was easy for these guys. This was no ride in the park. If you saw the post race shot of Schleck collapsed by his team bus, head in hands looking like he was ready to pass out, you know that the stage takes a lot out of them. One of the things these guys can do that most of us duffers cant is commit themselves completely. When they say they are all in, they mean it.

    Levi rode a great race. The oracle at Delphi offered wisdom in two words: “Know Thyself.” Levi showed us how important that can be for us. He was riding with the Schleck and Contador group today and then, as Schleck began his attacks, he was shot out the back. It looked like he was dropped and that he might be in trouble. Not so. After the race Levi noted he had stayed with Schleck/Contador to long. If he had stayed there longer he WOULD have blown up. In other words Levi knows he can never climb with those two guys. That is not his race. He is a tempo climber. He can set a pace and hold it all the way up the mountain, but he is not an explosive climber. If he tried to match their accelerations, he would fail. Many times in the past we have seen Levi get dropped early on a mountain stage only to pace himself back into it as the climb continues. I expect to se him do this in the Pyrenees. Don’t forget, he has done very well in the vuelta in the past (2d in 2003). He knows those mountains well. Levi could still podium.

    Lance showed pretty much what everyone thought; he looks to be about a top ten guy this year, at best. Without the fall that is about where he would be. Nothing wrong with that. My guess is that the French will suddenly adore him. They always like the Poulidor-type almost but not quite winner the most. Speaking of the French and Lance, who would have thought that at stage nine of the race Lance would trail not one, not two, not even three, but FIVE French riders in the GC? Yikes.

    A shout out (hola?) to Sammy Sanchez. The Olympic gold medal road race winner acquitted himself well today. He never quit, climbed well and rode his heart out to the line. Not quite enough to podium, but enough to earn my respect.

    Tomorrow will be a transition stage. Bonne chance!

    P.s. sorry this is so late; work duties called this morning.
    1. This was really nice writing. I enjoyed reading it. Thanks.
    2. Where were all the tpyos? It's hard for me to 'believe' a post from you of that length would be tpyo-free.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • creekster
      It is NOT a monkey!
      • Nov 2008
      • 22661

      #3
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      1. This was really nice writing. I enjoyed reading it. Thanks.
      2. Where were all the tpyos? It's hard for me to 'believe' a post from you of that length would be tpyo-free.
      I usually type a little more carefully for things I like or if I am not in a huge rush. But there were plenty of errors (to instead of too, etc.) and it could have used some editing. I do all that when I am getting paid. But thanks.
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • bluegoose
        7th round draft pick
        • Nov 2008
        • 4121

        #4
        I think the main reason why Contador did not attack yesterday was that he understands what kind of a team he has riding for him. I don't think that they are capable of defending the Maillot Jaune for very long, so he wants to conserve their energy as long as he possibly can before he has the carry the load by himself starting with Stage 14 on Sunday. Let Andy do the hard work in blitzing the field this week. Let Saxobank carry the burden on the next 3 or 4 transitional stages and then hammer the Pyrenees, leaving only a few days at the end to defend.

        His one climber (can't remember who it was) rode well up the bottom half of the Madeleine, but aside from that he didn't have a whole lot of support the last 50 or 60 km. Vino was riding fairly well for most of the stage but was less than helpful as a domestique in getting AC over the big climb.

        So in the end, I think AC still has "it" and that he will win le tour fairly easily, but he is riding cautiously until he absolutely has to hammer, at which time we will see that he is still a few pedal strokes stronger than Andy, who will be greatly missing his big bro this time next week.

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        • Coach McGuirk
          1
          • Nov 2008
          • 12109

          #5
          So I rode the Nebo Loop climb from the Payson side on sunday. It is a very long climb and has it's challenges. Here is the profile,



          It has its challenging parts and I certainly struggle with the distance as I end up climbing for 2+ hours. So I decided to see how that compares with the Col de la Madeleine since it seemed to be similar in distance. That is where the similarities end.




          Wow! Besides the mile respite at mile 6, I want no part of that climb. Well, yes I do, but not right now.

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          • mtnbiker
            it's all a blur
            • Mar 2009
            • 2573

            #6
            Very cool comparison, Coach. Thanks. Bit of an understatement to say that's a tough climb.

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            • PaloAltoCougar
              Semper infra dignitatem
              • Nov 2008
              • 16941

              #7
              Really interesting, Coach. What are you using to develop the profiles? I'd love to do that with my rides. MapMyRide does it fairly well, but not quite as clearly as you've done here.

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              • Coach McGuirk
                1
                • Nov 2008
                • 12109

                #8
                Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                Really interesting, Coach. What are you using to develop the profiles? I'd love to do that with my rides. MapMyRide does it fairly well, but not quite as clearly as you've done here.

                Those are actually from MMR. I turned on elevation and then dragged the frame bigger before taking a screen shot.

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                • Green Lantern
                  Has overcome great fear
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2289

                  #9
                  Great commentary as usual Creek.

                  I am loving the personalities of the riders in this Tour. It's hard not to root for Schleck even as I admire Contador.
                  Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...

                  None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.

                  I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.

                  --Portland Ute

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