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Originally posted by BlueK View PostRose won conference championships in the same conference Cleveland coached in, and when that conference was a lot better. We have no idea if Cleveland could have won a championship in the WCC with Gonzaga and SMC there. I think probably not."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Originally posted by mpfunk View PostWe was a disaster at UNLV which is a better job than Utah. He wasn't going to get the level of recruits he was getting at UNLV to Utah. He would have been in a tougher conference. He was a miserable failure at UNLV. What makes you think he would do better at a job where it is tougher to win?Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Originally posted by SCcoug View PostSagarin average, high, low rank for last 5 years coaching
Cleveland: 74.6, 31, 189
Rose: 57.8, 41, 78
Ken Pom average, high, low rank for last 4 years coaching
Cleveland: 69.75, 24, 157
Rose: 58.5, 28, 80"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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The big question to me is always who do you replace him with. We're not exactly in a great spot to recruit coaches for any sport other than cross country and volleyball. Independence kind of feels like it was a poison pill right now.sigpic
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Originally posted by cowboy View PostThe big question to me is always who do you replace him with. We're not exactly in a great spot to recruit coaches for any sport other than cross country and volleyball. Independence kind of feels like it was a poison pill right now."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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To answer the question- nah. When things go as well as they can he has performed very well. 2010 is one of my favorite sports years of all time largely thanks to Dave Rose. Lately we have had a bit of a run of people leaving early, staff changes, etc. We're doing ok with a team as young as ours-- I would like to see how this team develops."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWe are not independent in basketball.sigpic
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October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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I think you give Mark Pope some time to demonstrate that he's the rill dill, or allow a current LDS, BYU assistant emerge as the front-runner.
The decision doesn't have to be swift, but a succession plan should be developing.Last edited by Green Monstah; 02-20-2018, 02:21 PM.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
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- Dave Rose is a good, not great coach
- Dave Rose has been a below average coach (outside of Spokane) the last 3 years
- Dave Rose is a likable guy, who the media handles with kid gloves
- Dave Rose has never won a conference tournament, though he has been the #1 seed multiple times
- Dave Rose recruited the a chubby kid from NY who was the best thing to happen to BYU basketball since, a cocky kid with a bowl cut from Eugene.
- Dave Rose has lost more games in the NCAA tournament than he has won*
I'm torn on what to do with DR. Like KD, I think he has earned the right to stay through some bad years. In fact, I think BYU will eventually play on Dave Rose Court at the Marriott Center. However, he is trending in the wrong direction. To lose to inferior teams on as regular basis as he does, is a sign of bad coaching. Since joining the WCC. Gonzaga has lost to 0 teams other than SMC or BYU. St. Marys has lost to 5 games . BYU has lost 13...and counting.
* Without looking, I would guess on teams that didn't have St. Jimmer, Rose has only won 2 real (NIT doesn't count) tournament games.
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Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI didn't claim that he would have won the WCC. But taking 3rd place every year is nothing to brag about and I think Cleveland could have easily matched that record. Rose has accomplished nothing of note since Jimmer left.
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This thread is a bunch of bullshit. Rose has been very succesful and we are lucky to have him. Sounds like a bunch of pussy Ute fans thinking Whittingham has to go. Or maybe closer to home, everyone who was glad that Bronco left so that we could get some new blood in. That has worked out great.
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