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  • cougjunkie
    *Banned*
    • Nov 2008
    • 23223

    #16
    I have watched Washington play several times this year. A few observations in the games I have watched:

    1. They are one of the Pac-12 teams that actually played a solid non-conference slate. They took on Ohio State, Saint Louis, Colorado State, UCONN, and Nevada. The problem is they lost all of those games except the game against St. Louis. They also lost to Albany, Utah, Oregon State and USC.

    2. They are typical Lorenzo Romar team, on paper they are very talented and they are loaded with high star recruits. Abdul Gaddy was the number 2 player in the country and has been a disappointment (a torn ACL his sophomore year had something to do with it)

    3. Interior defense- they are lead by Aziz N'Diaye (4 star recruit) he is 7 feet and weighs about 260 pounds. The problem with N'Diaye is that he is somewhat of a stiff. He only has 39 blocks in 33 games, he averages 9 points and 9 rebounds. He is a big body that takes up space. I think Davies will be able to bring him away from the basket and use his quickness to get by him. N'Diaye is no threat on the offensive end, all of his points come from putbacks and dunks. If BYU keeps him off the glass he will be fine. He also sits the bench late in close games as he is a 41% free throw shooter. Expect Kaufusi and Austin to use their 5 foul allotment keeping him from getting easy baskets.

    4. Leading scorer is Pleasant Groves own CJ Wilcox (16.7ppg). CJ has shown flashes of becoming a breaking out player at times. However his career shooting numbers are subpar. On the season he is shooting 41% from the floor and 35% from three. In fact this entire Husky team shoots the ball very poorly from three (very similar to BYU). As a team they shoot 43% from the floor and 34% from three. I think BYU will put Zylstra on Wilcox and vice versa. CJ is an adequate defender but he is also their biggest offensive threat. I don' think ROmar will want him chasing Haws around and I know Dave Rose doesn't want Haws guarding Wilcox.

    5. The player to watch out for his 6'6 guard Scott Suggs. He has been red hot as of late, shooting over 60% from three in his last 4 games. His junior season he shot 45% from three and he is shooting 39% this season. He averages 12.7 points per game and will spot up in the corners. He is the one guy we will have to keep our eye on at all times in the zone.

    6. The bench is pretty weak, they are lead by Andrew Andrews and Desmond Simmons. Andrews is shooting a dismal 32% from the floor and 25% from three. He does love to put it up. Simmons is a very highly recruited wing player that has yet to live up to his potential and/or hype.

    7. One thing Washington does have is size, along with N'Diaye they start 6'9 Shawn Kemp Jr, along with 6'6 Wilcox. I am not sure the lineup we play with Zylstra at the 4 will work against them. We will definitely play zone as they shoot the ball very poorly and if we can force them to take jump shots I think BYU wins by 8-10 points.
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    • HuskyFreeNorthwest
      Time to camp
      • Nov 2008
      • 26082

      #17
      The also shoot very poorly from the FT line which cost them at least a couple games this season.
      Get confident, stupid
      -landpoke

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69642

        #18
        No need to worry about CJ Wilcox, my Cougar amigos. SU has repeatedly reminded us that no real basketball talent ever comes out of Utah county.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • HuskyFreeNorthwest
          Time to camp
          • Nov 2008
          • 26082

          #19
          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          No need to worry about CJ Wilcox, my Cougar amigos. SU has repeatedly reminded us that no real basketball talent ever comes out of Utah county.
          Swish!
          Get confident, stupid
          -landpoke

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          • Pelado
            Bald not naked
            • Sep 2010
            • 21136

            #20
            Looks like the Vegas line opened at -5 for BYU and has moved a full half point to -5.5. Over/under opened at 136 and is now posted at 146.
            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
            - Goatnapper'96

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            • SeattleUte
              Faith crisis consultant
              • Nov 2008
              • 20837

              #21
              I wouldn't put any money on this game. Year in and year out it seems Washington spectacularly underperforms relative to its athleticism and even individual basketball skills. Romar is not a good coach (except for recruiting savvy). This team is still loaded with blue chippers; I know Abdul Gaddy was no. 14 in the nation, a five star. Scott Suggs was highly recruited and well into the ESPN 100. CJ Wilcox may have been the best player in his Utah class.

              On the other hand, Rose coaches up modest talent. But BYU has been inconsistent this season, probably due to talent deficit even Rose's coaching savvy can't cure, even losing to bad teams at home.

              I could see either team winning by double figures.
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • Donuthole
                Official Outgayer
                • Nov 2008
                • 25256

                #22
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                I wouldn't put any money on this game. Year in and year out it seems Washington spectacularly underperforms relative to its athleticism and even individual basketball skills. Romar is not a good coach (except for recruiting savvy). This team is still loaded with blue chippers; I know Abdul Gaddy was no. 14 in the nation, a five star. Scott Suggs was highly recruited and well into the ESPN 100. CJ Wilcox may have been the best player in his Utah class.

                On the other hand, Rose coaches up modest talent. But BYU has been inconsistent this season, probably due to talent deficit even Rose's coaching savvy can't cure, even losing to bad teams at home.

                I could see either team winning by double figures.
                I could see either team winning by double figures. I could see either team winning a close one. I could see either team winning a game which was much closer than the final score indicates.
                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                • SeattleUte
                  Faith crisis consultant
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 20837

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                  I could see either team winning by double figures. I could see either team winning a close one. I could see either team winning a game which was much closer than the final score indicates.
                  This isn't profound. You couldn't say this about any matchup.
                  When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                  --Jonathan Swift

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                  • Art Vandelay
                    Striving for mediocrity
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 10516

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    I wouldn't put any money on this game. Year in and year out it seems Washington spectacularly underperforms relative to its athleticism and even individual basketball skills. Romar is not a good coach (except for recruiting savvy). This team is still loaded with blue chippers; I know Abdul Gaddy was no. 14 in the nation, a five star. Scott Suggs was highly recruited and well into the ESPN 100. CJ Wilcox may have been the best player in his Utah class.

                    On the other hand, Rose coaches up modest talent. But BYU has been inconsistent this season, probably due to talent deficit even Rose's coaching savvy can't cure, even losing to bad teams at home.

                    I could see either team winning by double figures.
                    Pretty much everything you said, could also be said about Sarkisian and the football team. I find it interesting how much more slack he gets than Romar. That usually isn't the case, at a football-first school.

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                    • BigPiney
                      Huge Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12362

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      This isn't profound. You couldn't say this about any matchup.

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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
                        Pretty much everything you said, could also be said about Sarkisian and the football team. I find it interesting how much more slack he gets than Romar. That usually isn't the case, at a football-first school.
                        It's a completely different situation. Sarkisian took over a moonscape, like Kodiak did at Utah basketball. Football takes longer to rebuild. He hasn't recruited as well as Romar has, but this past recruiting season was Sark's best, and he had a top 20 class that ranked higher than the Ducks'. I think Sarkisian has done an acceptable job so far and he's a long term solution for a program that lacks the natural advantages of USC and UCLA. Especially with the Ducks' imminent decline I think this will be borne out.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • CardiacCoug
                          вот так штука
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11013

                          #27
                          Looks like Kentucky really did belong in the NIT -- down 5 to Robert Morris in the second half.

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                          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                            Time to camp
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26082

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            Especially with the Ducks' imminent decline I think this will be borne out.
                            At least you still have faith, I see hope for you.
                            Get confident, stupid
                            -landpoke

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                            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                              Time to camp
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 26082

                              #29
                              For those that believe in fate, on this same Tuesday last year I was at Putters on Hwy 99 for a tear end basketball party, when the Cougs slogged through a rough half against Iona only to return triumphantly before the very eyes of YOhio. Tonight finds me again celebrating the youth basketball season coming to a close at Putters on Hwy 99, if the Cougars should struggle in the first half tonight remain faithful!
                              Get confident, stupid
                              -landpoke

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                              • YOhio
                                Hipster Mode
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26165

                                #30
                                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                                For those that believe in fate, on this same Tuesday last year I was at Putters on Hwy 99 for a tear end basketball party, when the Cougs slogged through a rough half against Iona only to return triumphantly before the very eyes of YOhio. Tonight finds me again celebrating the youth basketball season coming to a close at Putters on Hwy 99, if the Cougars should struggle in the first half tonight remain faithful!
                                I met Dick Harmon that night. Since then IndyCoug has incessantly attacked me out of jealousy.

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