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  • #16
    Originally posted by kccougar View Post
    I'm loving the mental gymnastics required of Ute fans as they come to terms with their new BCS arrangment. Let's now blame it all on BYU
    No mental gymnastics for me. I'm a Ute fan. I like what benefits the Utes. When the BcS was hurting the Utes it was bad. When the BcS is helping the Utes it is good.
    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
    --Kendrick Lamar

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
      No mental gymnastics for me. I'm a Ute fan. I like what benefits the Utes. When the BcS was hurting the Utes it was bad. When the BcS is helping the Utes it is good.
      Well at least you still have your principles.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • #18
        I am a BCS foe. Utah doesn't need it to do well, and neither do any of the other "power" conferences.

        I think Andy Staples is on to something (apologies if someone has already posted this):

        As antitrust suit looms, time to call BCS' bluff about old bowl system


        The schools involved can't afford to lose the case -- unless they know they'll get an NFL-USFL verdict. The case would cost millions to defend and could result in millions more in damages. With only a handful of athletic departments operating in the black, the damages could be catastrophic. So if at any point the schools feel they might lose, they'll probably cut bait.

        If they do, they'll face two choices: the old system, which would bring in far less money, or a playoff, which would bring in far more. Common sense suggests presidents would pick the playoff, which conservative estimates peg at $300-$400 million a year in rights fees on top of what the remaining bowls would bring, but the anti-playoff forces are powerful, influential and firmly entrenched. It's easy to imagine power brokers such as Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany talking presidents into a move back to the old system -- especially since the dramatic recent shift in the value of sports television programming might allow the total revenue to come somewhat close to the revenue generated by the current system, which distributed $169.9 million last year through the BCS and $108.7 million through the other bowls.

        Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1KIUBbOPx
        EDIT: I do think it is a little questionable that Utah's attorney general is fighting this fight on BYU's behalf.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          I am a BCS foe. Utah doesn't need it to do well, and neither do any of the other "power" conferences.

          I think Andy Staples is on to something (apologies if someone has already posted this):

          As antitrust suit looms, time to call BCS' bluff about old bowl system




          EDIT: I do think it is a little questionable that Utah's attorney general is fighting this fight on BYU's behalf.
          Fine, just don't act like a bitter mid-major.

          I agree with your last comment. Summon the ACLU!
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • #20
            Go Shurtleff!

            The BCS is and always will be corrupt. Just because Utah is now a part of that corruption doesn't make it right.
            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


            "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              Fine, just don't act like a bitter mid-major.
              I have a Jeffersonian distrust of large, powerful institutions, and I have a "for whom the bell tolls" attitude about the BCS. It's not shafting us now because we are in the club, but it would if doing so were in its best interests.
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • #22
                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                I have a Jeffersonian distrust of large, powerful institutions,
                IRONY
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  All you BCS haters, I have something for you (I think it will help):

                  YouTube - Network - "I'm as mad as hell" speech [english subtitles]
                  Paddy Chayefsky was far ahead of his time.
                  Get confident, stupid
                  -landpoke

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                    Paddy Chayefsky was far ahead of his time.
                    No kidding. Every minute of that film resonates by far more today than it did then. It's not even a parody anymore.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      IRONY
                      Life is full of contradictions.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                        Life is full of contradictions.
                        Check your premises. lol

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                        • #27
                          This is just comedy gold. SU defending the BCS

                          I know he can't do much more than troll but this is fanatanasticalicious

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                          • #28
                            It wouldn't surprise me to learn that he is continuing to pursue it because he doesn't want to appear to be one of those polititians who can be bought and appeased.

                            If it is corrupt and wrong, then it is corrupt and wrong. Even once they invite you to the party. Suddenly dropping all interest would give the same appearance as being a polititian who's interest drops in certain legislation simply because a lobbyist made some campaign contributions.

                            I guess I'm just saying I'm not sure this is a BYU/Utah thing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                              It wouldn't surprise me to learn that he is continuing to pursue it because he doesn't want to appear to be one of those polititians who can be bought and appeased.

                              If it is corrupt and wrong, then it is corrupt and wrong. Even once they invite vite you to the party. Suddenly dropping all interest would give the same appearance as being a polititian who's interest drops in certain legislation simply because a lobbyist made some campaign contributions.

                              I guess I'm just saying I'm not sure this is a BYU/Utah thing.
                              on the surface it is somewhat embarrassing that he still pursued the issue. However I believe Pres Obama is on record saying the BCS has significant problems, and that a playoff would be preferable. If somebody will bring the issue to court they might find some significant support.

                              In 2004 I remember Steve Young doing a breakdown that proved the BCS leagues still earned 95% of the bowl money, despite having just over half of the teams playing in the bowl games.

                              As stated above and elsewhere, if they scrap the BCS and go back to the 'old system ' BYU may actually be put in a worse position bowl-wise. I think it is a bit simplistic to claim he is doing it solely for BYU 'was sake.

                              How much will this case cost the state? If there is a big settlement will the state AGs try to bill for their hours the way some of them did following the tobacco settlement?

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