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  • #61
    Jimmer wasn't a ball in 2nd half

    Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
    Jimmer looked like the ball hog he is rumored to be.
    Jimmer forced things in the first half. Second half he was 2 of 4. A true hog would have chucked up at least 10 shots in the second half.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by dixdog View Post
      Jimmer forced things in the first half. Second half he was 2 of 4. A true hog would have chucked up at least 10 shots in the second half.
      I agree. I don't think Jimmer is a ball hog. His shooting percentages deny that. I also agree that he didn't shoot as many or as poorly in the second half. HIs numbers weren't pretty from the first half though.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
        I agree. I don't think Jimmer is a ball hog. His shooting percentages deny that. I also agree that he didn't shoot as many or as poorly in the second half. HIs numbers weren't pretty from the first half though.
        To me it seemed he was getting frustrated in the first half that his defenders were being allowed to put their hands on him and use their forearms to stop his drives, but BYU defenders weren't being given the same license on the other end. But in the 1st half Jimmer tried to overcome that by making tough shots, instead of the preferred method that he employed in the 2nd half when he drove into those defenders and forced the refs to put him on the line more.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
          I was happy with the way he finished off the bounce. He is not a guy that will only settle for 3's. His defense is getting better. I think we will see more and more of him especially if KC continues to get himself in foul trouble.
          For the first time I thought "this kid might be good." I think he may start the next two years.
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
            To me it seemed he was getting frustrated in the first half that his defenders were being allowed to put their hands on him and use their forearms to stop his drives, but BYU defenders weren't being given the same license on the other end. But in the 1st half Jimmer tried to overcome that by making tough shots, instead of the preferred method that he employed in the 2nd half when he drove into those defenders and forced the refs to put him on the line more.
            He was really frustrated. He had a running commentary with the refs throughout the first half about being grabbed. From where I was sitting he had a legit complaint. TCU was doing a lot of grabbing, especially on the high screen.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
              Tell that to the 40th ranked eFG% defense in the nation, or the 32nd best defensive rebounding%, or the 63rd best steal% in the country, or the above average 28th rated adjusted defensive efficiency.
              I don't claim to be an expert, all I'm saying is that in the games that I've watched I've been frustrated at the number of offensive rebounds we give up and the ease with which cutters and post men get in the paint.
              Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
              God forgives many things for an act of mercy
              Alessandro Manzoni

              Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                For the first time I thought "this kid might be good." I think he may start the next two years.
                He's a real tweener for Rose's system. I think Rose is uncomfortable playing him at the 3 for his ability to defend on perimeter and he's just a little too much of a wuss to play the 4. Rose is brilliant for tweaking his system to fit his players though. I'm curious to see what role exactly Rogers does fill. With the tanking of Charles, it would be nice if Rogers could step up.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                  He's a real tweener for Rose's system. I think Rose is uncomfortable playing him at the 3 for his ability to defend on perimeter and he's just a little too much of a wuss to play the 4. Rose is brilliant for tweaking his system to fit his players though. I'm curious to see what role exactly Rogers does fill. With the tanking of Charles, it would be nice if Rogers could step up.
                  He is grad school student's Lee Cummard (better than a poor man's version). Next years offense will likely be very different than this years with the loss of Jimmer and Jax. I see Rogers as a starter averaging 12+ game.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                    He's a real tweener for Rose's system. I think Rose is uncomfortable playing him at the 3 for his ability to defend on perimeter and he's just a little too much of a wuss to play the 4. Rose is brilliant for tweaking his system to fit his players though. I'm curious to see what role exactly Rogers does fill. With the tanking of Charles, it would be nice if Rogers could step up.
                    I think he is likely to be a 3 next year. I think his defense can improve quite a bit. I think he has the potential to be better offensively than Abouo can be defensively. I also think Rogers has some bouncy athleticism that could allow him to be a decent rebounder on the perimter. He will get beat off the bounce but I think he will defend the perimeter, next year, better than we might think.

                    The only issue I thought was I don't want anyone to get in the way of the next great perimeter triumvirate of Matt Carline, Demarcus Harrison and Tyler Haws from starting 3 years together. If Rogers ends up better than I thought, he might do that. I am not so sure if that is a good thing.
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                      The only issue I thought was I don't want anyone to get in the way of the next great perimeter triumvirate of Matt Carline, Demarcus Harrison and Tyler Haws from starting 3 years together. If Rogers ends up better than I thought, he might do that. I am not so sure if that is a good thing.
                      KC might get in the way of that.
                      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                      -Turtle
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        KC might get in the way of that.
                        I think Napper is assuming that KC goes mission then redshirts so as to not have the same injury problems that his brother faced this year...
                        Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                          I think Napper is assuming that KC goes mission then redshirts so as to not have the same injury problems that his brother faced this year...
                          Weird to think that KC might not be back on the floor until 2014.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            KC might get in the way of that.
                            KC would be back from his mission when they all would be experienced juniors. I see KC with a future redshirt. The roster that year will be:

                            Carlino
                            Harrison
                            Haws
                            Allen comma RoscoePeecoaletrain!
                            Collinsworth

                            Off the bench with Nick Emery, Anson Winder, Ian Austin and the superstar half Tongan who everyone thinks will never come to the BYU. In fact as I objectively evaluate where Dave Rose is taking this program I am wondering if BYU will even have a slot for KC.

                            To be honest it would not surprise me if BYU shifts KC to the 4 to play with that crowd. Especially if KC grows an inch or two on his mission like his bro. I always thought KC would be a 4 anyhow. With a 4 out 1 in motion, KC would make a fine 4 and I think he will have the strength to defend opposing 4's.
                            Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                            -General George S. Patton

                            I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                            -DOCTOR Wuap

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post

                              To be honest it would not surprise me if BYU shifts KC to the 4 to play with that crowd. Especially if KC grows an inch or two on his mission like his bro. I always thought KC would be a 4 anyhow. With a 4 out 1 in motion, KC would make a fine 4 and I think he will have the strength to defend opposing 4's.
                              My goodness if he grew an inch or two, filled out, and maintained his skill set he would be a beast.
                              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                                My goodness if he grew an inch or two, filled out, and maintained his skill set he would be a beast.
                                If he stayed exactly the same but smoothed out his jumper he would be a beast.

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