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  • Rose on why Loyd is gone: Accountability issues, responsibility issues

    http://blogs.sltrib.com/byu/index.ph...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
    In a 20-minute question-and-answer session with the media this afternoon, BYU basketball coach Dave Rose said the main reason that rising star guard Michael Loyd Jr. is no longer a member of the Cougar basketball team is one of accountability.
    “The situation with Mike basically came down to accountability issues and responsibility issues, and things that we had discussed many times and when it came right down to it, we just felt that the direction that we were going as a team and as a program, and the things that we felt were really, really important....Mike struggled with some of those issues,” Rose said. “So the best thing for us to do was kinda go in different directions. And that is kind of how it happened.”
    Before the 4 p.m. news conference, Loyd was playing a pickup basketball game in the Richards Building with several members of the team, along with players from Utah Valley University and Utah State (Tai Wesley).
    Loyd agreed to be interviewed, and I will have more on what he said in a later post. Suffice to say, what Loyd said about leaving did not contradict what Rose said later in the day. Bottom line, though, is that Loyd said he was happy at BYU and did not want to leave.
    He gave the impression that the primary reason he was pushed out was an academic one, saying several times that he could not see himself staying eligible academically if he were to continue at BYU.
    He also believes that he was pushed out by “higher-ups” at BYU, and not the coaching staff, although he could not offer any evidence for those assertions.
    But back to Rose.
    The coach also addressed the academic issue, saying school was always a challenge for Loyd, as it is for every student and student-athlete at BYU. But Rose stressed that Loyd is academically eligible right now to attend any school he wants to.
    “It was consistency that was an issue” with Loyd, Rose said.
    The coach said the ouster “was as difficult as they come,” but said his relationship with Loyd remains strong.
    Asked if Loyd’s presence on the team was becoming too divisive, Rose said, “The best way to explain this is that if Mike felt like this was the best place for him, he would still be here.”
    Other tidbits from Rose today:
    * No word yet on what Jimmer Fredette will do. Rose said Fredette worked out for Oklahoma City on Monday and for Boston on Wednesday. He did not want to say the teams Fredette will work out for on Thursday and Friday. He said all four teams have paid or will pay the expenses for Fredette to travel to their cities for the workouts.
    * Rose said Fredette did well in the first two workouts, having talked to representatives of the teams he worked out for. He also said that Fredette had to turn down a couple other invitations because there was not enough time to get them in, given that Saturday is the deadline for deciding whether to stay or go.
    * Rose said he has had discussions with BYU athletic administrators about possible conference expansion/change, but that his opinion really doesn’t matter anyway.
    * Finally, the best news of all. Rose said he recently had another scan for cancer, and was happy to report that “it was clear.”
    “That was a real good thing,” he said.

  • #2
    That's an interesting report, and adds additional support for Rose being a great coach and decent guy. But the best thing in the whole blog is the news that Rose's cancer scan was clear.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      That's an interesting report, and adds additional support for Rose being a great coach and decent guy. But the best thing in the whole blog is the news that Rose's cancer scan was clear.
      Amen.
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
      -Turtle
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      • #4
        Still doesn't make sense. There's obviously a lot more to the story. I hope we find out.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jay santos View Post
          Still doesn't make sense. There's obviously a lot more to the story. I hope we find out.
          Mike Loyd wants to be at BYU he posted that on his facebook page. He also said when he was kicked out that "This is the worst day of my life".

          However Mike Loyd also wanted to be an individual and push every rule, regulation, etc to the brink. It think it is a matter of leave voluntarily before you are forced to leave.
          *Banned*

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          • #6
            I am not sure what to think until SU weighs in.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              I am not sure what to think until SU weighs in.
              We already know what he will say, so go ahead and weigh in.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                Still doesn't make sense. There's obviously a lot more to the story. I hope we find out.
                WHy do you hope we find out? I am not sure it is any of our business.
                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by creekster View Post
                  WHy do you hope we find out? I am not sure it is any of our business.
                  Creekster, you must be the least curious person on the planet.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

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                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • #10
                    Whew. I thought this was another thread about Goldman Sachs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      WHy do you hope we find out? I am not sure it is any of our business.
                      1. I'm a fan, that's what we do. I'm really invested in the BB team and Loyd's one of my fav players.
                      2. If it's Honor Code related, I'd like to add it to my ongoing tally of black-non LDS athletes who get booted due to Honor Code. I reject SU's theory that the reason is racist, but it's still an issue that we need to acknowledge.
                      3. I'd like to know if BYU's being too harsh or not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by falafel View Post
                        Creekster, you must be the least curious person on the planet.
                        Not at all. But just becaseu I would rather lay around all day and play my guitar doesnt mean I think i should or that I have any entitlement to it. Jay's reaons are fine, as far sa they go, but in my mind they dont go far enough for me to feel like we are entitled to any more infomration about this kid. It's weird enough how we all drool and hang all over them when they are recruited and then are successful on the field. It seems somehwat macabre and dark to do the same thing when they are having difficulties. If Lloyd wants us to know, he can tell us, but I don't 'hope' we find out. Reasonable minds can differ on this, I agree. But that is my opinion here.
                        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                          We already know what he will say, so go ahead and weigh in.
                          Come on, it's always more fun to wait and see how he frames his token "speaks volumes."
                          Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                          God forgives many things for an act of mercy
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                          Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by creekster View Post
                            Not at all. But just becaseu I would rather lay around all day and play my guitar doesnt mean I think i should or that I have any entitlement to it. Jay's reaons are fine, as far sa they go, but in my mind they dont go far enough for me to feel like we are entitled to any more infomration about this kid. It's weird enough how we all drool and hang all over them when they are recruited and then are successful on the field. It seems somehwat macabre and dark to do the same thing when they are having difficulties. If Lloyd wants us to know, he can tell us, but I don't 'hope' we find out. Reasonable minds can differ on this, I agree. But that is my opinion here.
                            I don't feel entitled to the info. I'm just hoping to have my unresolved curiosity satisfied. And I'd rather it not be made public if it condemns Loyd. If it condemns BYU, I'd like it to be public. If it condemns Loyd, I want to know but let everyone else wonder.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                              I don't feel entitled to the info. I'm just hoping to have my unresolved curiosity satisfied. And I'd rather it not be made public if it condemns Loyd. If it condemns BYU, I'd like it to be public. If it condemns Loyd, I want to know but let everyone else wonder.
                              SUre, I get it. From my POV, prurient desires notwithstadning, it just isnt our business. Liek I said, reasonable minds can differ.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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