Brethren, ado?

[SeattleUte]

Is this a special win or someting long overdue and the least BYU fans were entitled to expect at this point?

[cougjunkie]

Is this a special win or someting long overdue and the least BYU fans were entitled to expect at this point?

Shut the eff up, your posts are lame and old. You are getting really annoying.

[UtahDan]

Shut the eff up, your posts are lame and old. You are getting really annoying.

I never thought I would see you beaten at your own game.

[SeattleUte]

Shut the eff up, your posts are lame and old. You are getting really annoying.

I predict Kansas State will kick BYU's butt! What will you say then?

[CardiacCoug]

I predict Kansas State will kick BYU's butt! What will you say then?

Damn, I was wrong in that poll in the other thread.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I predict Kansas State will kick BYU's butt! What will you say then?

LOL.

[UtahDan]

I predict Kansas State will kick BYU's butt! What will you say then?

This will be in no small part because BYU has already accomplished its goal. But tasting success this year ought to give them a hunger to do more than win one game next year. I have become convinced that Fredette is a truly special college player. That is no better than a 10-12 win team without him.

[TripletDaddy]

Fredette is a truly special college player

Thank you for the nice compliment.

[CardiacCoug]

This will be in no small part because BYU has already accomplished its goal. But tasting success this year ought to give them a hunger to do more than win one game next year. I have become convinced that Fredette is a truly special college player. That is no better than a 10-12 win team without him.

You can't be serious with that. BYU did OK without Fredette this season -- even on the road against UTEP.

At times it seemed like they even played better without him. They would still have well over 20 wins without Jimmer.

[Jeff Lebowski]

This will be in no small part because BYU has already accomplished its goal. But tasting success this year ought to give them a hunger to do more than win one game next year. I have become convinced that Fredette is a truly special college player. That is no better than a 10-12 win team without him.

Nonsense. 20+. Easily.

[SteelBlue]

That is no better than a 10-12 win team without him.

LOL. You can't possibly believe that.

[SeattleUte]

Lloyd is better than Fredette.

[UtahDan]

Nonsense. 20+. Easily.

Fine, I'll go as high as 14, but you need to understand that this is not a negotiation where we are going to meet in the middle.

[cougjunkie]

You can't be serious with that. BYU did OK without Fredette this season -- even on the road against UTEP.

At times it seemed like they even played better without him. They would still have well over 20 wins without Jimmer.

Yep they are still a NCAA tourney team without Fredette. They beat UTEP in El Paso without him. They beat UNLV at home without him. He missed all or part of 6-7 games this year. They lost by 2 at home to New Mexico without him. THis is a good team with or without him.

[cougjunkie]

Fine, I'll go as high as 14, but you need to understand that this is not a negotiation where we are going to meet in the middle.

They also beat at Utah with Jimmer playing limited minutes and not being at full strength. So if Utah is a 14 win team, BYU is at least better than that.