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That's pretty awesome. I had my doubts. Still, its kinda lame to see BYU, the team with the most wins in D-1 basketball, sitting behind all those 2 and 3 loss teams. I understand it, but its still annoying.Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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I'm a little surprised to see that UNM did not crack the top 25. Bummer.Comment
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Right, and they're a 3-loss team. Compare them to Gonzaga, who has 3 losses and only 16 wins (compared to UNM's 18). I'm mainly surprised b/c UNM was ranked so highly earlier this season.Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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I love this....rapping BYU basketball and Austin Collie's appearance in the SUPER BOWL.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Gonzaga beat Wisconsin, Illinois and Oklahoma but lost by 35 points to Duke. They've also lost to Michigan State and Wake Forest. So, basically that top 10 ranking is due to the win against Wisconsin and they're batting .500 against decent teams.
Gonzaga gets a helluva lot of run from the 99-01 seasons when it reached the elite eight one year and then the sweet sixteen the next two years. In the next eight tournaments, Gonzaga has reached the sweet sixteen twice despite getting some favorable seeds. In the past eight years, Gonzaga has only beaten a higher seeded team once and that was when it was a #9 seed and beat a #8 seeded team. In that same space of time, #6 seeded Gonzaga lost to #11 Wyoming (02), #2 seeded Gonzaga lost to #10 Nevada (04), #3 seeded Gonzaga lost to (I believe) #6 seeded Texas Tech (05), and #7 seeded Gonzaga lost to # 10 seeded Davidson (08).Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 01-25-2010, 10:59 AM.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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Gonzaga gets a lot of run for being competitive against top shelf competition year in and year out. They perennially have the best OOC SOS for a mid-major school.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostComment
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I don't doubt that they do schedule a tough OOC schedule. My problem is with their weak ass WCC schedule and the fact that they really only went .500 against that tough OOC schedule. Gonzaga deserves to be in the top 20 but not the top 10. I'm not convinced that Gonzaga would be 20-1 against BYU's schedule and I feel there's a very good chance that BYU would have the same record against Gonzaga's schedule (and if that were the case, BYU wouldn't deserve being ranked as high as Gonzaga is right now.)Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
EDIT: I'm not really arguing that BYU is being slighted here in preference for Gonzaga. I just think a 3-loss Gonzaga team shouldn't be ranked higher than 3 loss teams like Tennessee, WVU, and K-State.Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 01-25-2010, 11:08 AM.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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Very few teams would even "only [go] .500 against that tough OCC schedule", which is why they are ranked.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
What's Texas' record against top 25 teams this year? Duke?Comment
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Gonzaga is 1-2 vs. ranked teams. The next best team they played, Wake Forest, also beat them, so they're 1-3 against the best four teams they've played. I was being generous in including Illinois (12-8) and Oklahoma (11-8) into the mix of good teams.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
So again, Gonzaga is put in the top ten over Tennessee, K-State and WVU due to a single win over Wisconsin. Gonzaga (shockingly!) has rattled off a bunch of wins against WCC opponents so they're deemed to have the momentum vs. teams from the Big East and Big 12 that drop games in conference play, it's a joke.
I'd keep Duke out of this discussion, they beat Gonzaga by 35 points. Clearly Gonzaga isn't even in the same league with Duke this year. I'm not sure how a team that gets beat by 35 points by anyone can still be in the top 10.Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 01-25-2010, 11:24 AM.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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Texas beat Michigan State and North Carolina. I think both were in the top ten at the time.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
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Kansas, K-State, Texas Tech, aTm, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Oklahoma and Missouri all have higher RPIs than the second place WCC team. If RPIs mean anything, then nine of Texas's conference opponents are better than all of Gonzaga's conference opponents.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Gonzaga has played five opponents in the RPI top 50 and has gone 2-3 against them.
Edit: I overlooked St. Mary's which is ranked #35 in the RPI.Last edited by Color Me Badd Fan; 01-25-2010, 11:38 AM.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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