The GOP's biggest problem?

[SloanHater]

"We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Okla.). It's the Southerners. They get on TV and go "errrr, errrrr." People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners. The party's being taken over by Southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?' "

-Sen. George V. Voinovich

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...3_QCEJQ20.html

[il Padrino Ute]

The GOP's biggest problem is'nt Southerners. It's that it has turned into the Democrat Lite party.

Tax and spend.

There is no difference between the two and hasn't been for many years.

EDIT: I changed it to read that the problem is not Southerners.

[BlueHair]

The GOP's biggest problem is Southerners. It's that it has turned into the Democrat Lite party.

Tax and spend.

There is no difference between the two and hasn't been for many years.

Amen.

The second biggest problem is Hannity. The third is Rush.

[Babs]

"We got too many Jim DeMints (R-S.C.) and Tom Coburns (R-Okla.). It's the Southerners. They get on TV and go "errrr, errrrr." People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners. The party's being taken over by Southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?' "

-Sen. George V. Voinovich

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...3_QCEJQ20.html

The funny thing about that quote is that Coburn (no s) is one of the few fiscal conservatives left in the party. So the suggestion that he's the "problem" just underscores how confused the party is.

[JohnnyLingo]

Amen.

The second biggest problem is Hannity. The third is Rush.

I always find it amazing how much power and influence liberals believe those two have. I find it equally amazing that you seem to think they are brainwashing Americans, while maybe people just enjoy listening to people who have the same ideas and political thoughts as they do.

I can see how the latter is far more frightening than the former.

[Hallelujah]

I always find it amazing how much power and influence liberals believe those two have. I find it equally amazing that you seem to think they are brainwashing Americans, while maybe people just enjoy listening to people who have the same ideas and political thoughts as they do.

I can see how the latter is far more frightening than the former.

Liberals always need a boogey man or men. They can't debate issues on the merits, instead they have to attack the person. Kind of like some posters on CUF.

[SloanHater]

More Republican Infighting. Romney v. Pawlentry. Isn't there anyway we can get Palin involved ?

"Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty has rapidly moved to become a leading voice within the Republican party on health care and, in the process, has taken a series of shots at former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's handling of the issue in Massachusetts.

... But, when asked about Pawlenty's repeated jabs at his boss, Romney spokesman Eric Fehnrstrom offered a subtle pushback on the idea that the Massachusetts plan is a recipe for health care disaster.

"There's a reason why states and national health care reformers are copying the Massachusetts health care law, and that's because it works," said Fehrnstrom. 'Mitt Romney is the only governor in history to get insurance coverage to nearly all his citizens. He got the job done.' "

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...l?wprss=thefix

Is it possible Reagan's Big Tent has finally folded ?

[JohnnyLingo]

And to provide balance to SloanHater, here's an article on infighting among Democrats on healthcare:

The news is how the political left and its lobbies are roughing up fellow Democrats who won’t get with President Obama’s government-run program. They’re treating the centrists who helped make them a majority as if they were Newt Gingrich without the social conscience.

On Friday, Democracy for America and the Progressive Change Campaign Committee put out a “rapid-response ad” against Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson, who is lukewarm about a government-run insurance scheme, the so-called public option. “Will Sen. Nelson choose the insurance interests who fund his campaigns to the tune of over $2 million dollars?” the ad declares. Democracy for America calls the ad “a warning shot to any Senator who tries to block President Obama’s public health insurance option.”

Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus is another target because he’s negotiating with Republicans. The same “progressive” outfits recently ran an ad attacking Mr. Baucus for “threatening” the public option and “taking” $3.9 million “from health and insurance interests.” The Montana Democrat was also rapped for trying to scale back the cost to under $900 billion. In case Mr. Baucus didn’t get the hint, fellow Senator Tom Harkin publicly noted last week that Democrats hold a secret ballot for committee chairmen every two years. Better hire a food taster, Max.

Boy, gotta crack down on that dissension among your ranks, Madam Speaker. By any means necessary, apparently.

Speaking of Reagan, I'm reading a biography on the president and when he needed the support of liberal conservatives or more conservative democrats, he'd call them and work with them, develop relationships with them, not put out TV ads attacking them.

I think all this heavy-handedness is going to backfire on Obama's crew, big time.

[I.J. Reilly]

Liberals always need a boogey man or men. They can't debate issues on the merits, instead they have to attack the person. Kind of like some posters on CUF.

Blanket statements like this don't mean anything. There is no possible way that every liberal necessitates a boogey man to debate issues. Of those of the liberal persuasion that I know, more than most are happy to debate issues on their merits, sans boogey man.

[JohnnyLingo]

Blanket statements like this don't mean anything.

True words. More people need to realize and apply this concept.

[SloanHater]

And to provide balance to SloanHater.

As usual, you miss the entire point of discussion. The Republican Party is at a crossroads. The conservative branch of the party is hurting the moderate branch of the party in swing states like Ohio, Colorado, and Michigan.

You may not believe this to be true as I'm sure you have heard otherwise on the radio.

[JohnnyLingo]

As usual, you miss the entire point of discussion. The Republican Party is at a crossroads. The conservative branch of the party is hurting the moderate branch of the party in swing states like Ohio, Colorado, and Michigan.

You may not believe this to be true as I'm sure you have heard otherwise on the radio.

You're completely off base here. Rush and Hannity both have major issues with the GOP. They'd agree with you that the party is at a crossroads.

You may not believe this to be true as I'm sure you have read otherwise on the internet.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts re: the White House strong-arming Democrats into compliance with the health care agenda (and Cap and Trade).

[Clark Addison]

Liberals always need a boogey man or men. They can't debate issues on the merits, instead they have to attack the person. Kind of like some posters on CUF.

I'm glad you are able to take the high road on this one and refrain from attacking people.

[SloanHater]

You're completely off base here. Rush and Hannity both have major issues with the GOP. They'd agree with you that the party is at a crossroads.

And what is their solution to the dilemma ? What is your solution ? See this is where you could ADD to the discourse and not simply pout while name calling.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts re: the White House strong-arming Democrats into compliance with the health care agenda (and Cap and Trade).

Isn't that the job description of a Party Whip ?

[JohnnyLingo]

And what is their solution to the dilemma ? What is your solution ? See this is where you could ADD to the discourse and not simply pout while name calling.

What the hell are you talking about? Where am I pouting? Where am I name calling?

Their solution to the dilemma is that the GOP needs to get back to its conservative ideals. Preach fiscal responsibility and actually follow through. Cut taxes. Fight against big government. Everything the Bush administration and Republican Congress did not do.

Isn't that the job description of a Party Whip ?

I suppose, but like I said, the methods being used will likely result in major backlash among more conservative Democrats.