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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    The fact that this pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell is even being discussed tells you all you need to know about Trump's guilt. If you haven't bothered to explore the issue, I'd encourage you to and not lump it is as random conspiracy. There is a strong case Trump has raped kids. This should be the scandal of the century. He is looking to pardon her in exchange for her clearing his saintly name.





    https://www.politico.com/live-update...r-not-00887823
    Disgusting.
    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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    • A pardon of Ghislaine (my former dining companion) would be absurd. Her credibility is zero.

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      • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
        A pardon of Ghislaine (my former dining companion) would be absurd. Her credibility is zero.
        PAC, I find it frustrating that these allegations are so easily dismissed by so many. This pardon would be a neon lighted sign admitted his guilt. There is no other functional purpose, especially when the justice department isn't bothering to pursue other leads or even meet with victims.

        The Jane Doe rape allegations were concerning enough for them to meet with her 4 (it might've been 3) times and we're in the process of setting up another meeting. It was dropped during his regime. They found her credible enough to pursue despite how it was later categorized, framing it that her tip wasn't considering worth pursuing from the start.

        New Mexico law enforcement was ordered to stop looking into Epstein's ranch by the feds.


        Bill (who I am no defender of) and Hillary Clinton were called in to testify, while Trump's far more frequent interactions with Epstein go ignored.

        Anyway Mormons scripturally believe in secret combinations but functionally think that just can be reduced commies and menacing anti-family political correctness.

        I don't know if people don't like to consider the possibility that we are led by historically awful and evil people or what

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          Anyway Mormons scripturally believe in secret combinations but functionally think that just can be reduced commies and menacing anti-family political correctness.
          What in the hell?

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            What in the hell?
            That comment expresses frustration on what I see as a lack of concern about present worrisome corruption (Trump admin) while hyper-focusing on much less urgent culture war issues.

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            • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

              That comment expresses frustration on what I see as a lack of concern about present worrisome corruption (Trump admin) while hyper-focusing on much less urgent culture war issues.
              That’s quite the projection on a religion of 17 million people, most of who likely don’t agree with your statement.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                That’s quite the projection on a religion of 17 million people, most of who likely don’t agree with your statement.
                Thank you, how about the majority of my post? Anything you agree with?

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                • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Thank you, how about the majority of my post? Anything you agree with?
                  I agree with most of it. I think Trump is disgusting and he clearly was BFFs with Epstein and very likely visited the island. Trump is a rapist and has paid off people to be quiet...but none of that matters since his voters don't seem to care about character, which is sad and part of why we are all so polarized today.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Thinking more about a potential pardon, Congress should adopt a Constitutional amendment modifying the pardon power, giving Congress veto power over any pardon. Abuse of the power began long before Trump and Biden, but Trump has profited financially much more from the power than did any predecessor. I'd expect the states would ratify toot suite, but Congress, as with most everything else, won't have the spine to do this. Passage of such an amendment wouldn't eliminate the shameless grift, bit at least those supporting a pardon would have their dirty fingerprints on it as well.

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                    • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                      Thinking more about a potential pardon, Congress should adopt a Constitutional amendment modifying the pardon power, giving Congress veto power over any pardon. Abuse of the power began long before Trump and Biden, but Trump has profited financially much more from the power than did any predecessor. I'd expect the states would ratify toot suite, but Congress, as with most everything else, won't have the spine to do this. Passage of such an amendment wouldn't eliminate the shameless grift, bit at least those supporting a pardon would have their dirty fingerprints on it as well.
                      Absolutely not coming from Congress. It’s tempting to imagine an amendment coming from the states via Article V, but they’re infected by the same two parties as Congress.

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