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  • #61
    Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
    The question then becomes: why the hell not? He tried to commit suicide a couple weeks ago!
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Agreed. This is crazy.
    It makes no sense:

    Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein was not on suicide watch at the time of his death, according to multiple reports Saturday, raising questions about his time in federal custody while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

    Several people familiar with the investigation told NBC News that Epstein was not under supervision when he killed himself in his cell in a Manhattan federal prison.





    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/45...-death-reports

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    • #62
      Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
      The question then becomes: why the hell not? He tried to commit suicide a couple weeks ago!
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Agreed. This is crazy.
      Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein's suicide makes no sense...

      Accused pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s death this morning — reportedly a suicide, according to federal officials — is an inexplicable end to a bizarre, tragic case that only got more disturbing the more we learned about it.

      The fact that one of the country’s highest-profile federal prisoners could even commit suicide defies all logic and belief.

      His death raises doubts about officials’ actions. The FBI says it will investigate; Attorney General William Barr says he is “appalled” by what happened; members of Congress such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) are demanding answers. Indeed we all need answers, before we lose all faith in our justice system.

      But the most basic question, in my mind, is why Epstein was in solitary confinement in the first place — something so totally inappropriate for a prisoner already at risk of suicide.
      [...]
      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • #63
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • #64

          Prison experts are stunned and angry that Jeffrey Epstein was taken off suicide watch

          Prison experts are stunned and angry that Jeffrey Epstein was taken off suicide watch

          Even before his first suspected suicide try last month, Jeffrey Epstein was perhaps the most vulnerable man in the federal jail system: a wealthy and well-known financier accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls. He was, by all accounts, the kind of inmate who should have been under the closest possible supervision.

          Instead, Epstein was taken off suicide watch in the days before he apparently took his own life, officials told NBC News, a decision that baffled former wardens and veterans of the federal prison system.

          "For them to pull him off suicide watch is shocking,” Cameron Lindsay, a former warden who worked at three federal facilities, told NBC News. “For someone this high-profile, with these allegations and this many victims, who has had a suicide attempt in the last few weeks, you can take absolutely no chances.”
          [...]
          The conditions would have required him to be moved to a special bare-bones cell where he would be outfitted in a tear-resistant one-piece smock and receive stepped-up observation from a staffer or inmate posted outside, according to Lindsay and sources familiar with Epstein’s case.

          But Epstein’s status was changed sometime in the last two weeks for reasons that remain unknown, officials told NBC News. The decision would normally have to have been authorized by the jail’s suicide prevention program coordinator, who is ordinarily the institution’s chief psychologist, and approved by the warden.

          “Once an inmate has been placed on watch, the watch may not be terminated, under any circumstance, without the program coordinator or designee performing a face-to-face evaluation,” according to the federal Bureau of Prisons official guidelines issued in 2007.
          [...]
          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...icide-n1041121






          I knew it... The Russians did it! :foilhat:
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #65


            Wait... Is Barr a Russian spy?!? This is totally starting to make sense. :foilhat:
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post


              Wait... Is Barr a Russian spy?!? This is totally starting to make sense. :foilhat:
              There is always irony is you using the tinfoil hat emoticon. You’ve forwarded pizzagate, deepstate and Alex Jones conspiracy theories on here.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                Solitary confinement makes sense if it was for his protection. I’m not sure how safe gen pop would be, although he has financial resources to pay for gang protection.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                  There is always irony is you using the tinfoil hat emoticon. You’ve forwarded pizzagate, deepstate and Alex Jones conspiracy theories on here.
                  That said, I'm not sure why you're surprised to see him sport a tinfoil hat.

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                  • #69
                    Not a conspiracy theorist, but this makes things even more suspicious in my eyes:

                    One of the two people guarding Jeffrey Epstein when he apparently hanged himself in a federal jail cell was not a full-fledged correctional officer, and neither guard had checked on Mr. Epstein for several hours before he was discovered, prison and law-enforcement officials said.

                    ...

                    A New York Times investigation published last year detailed this practice, under which federal prisons are so strapped for correctional officers that they regularly compel teachers, nurses, secretaries and other support staff members to step in.

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/n...tein-barr.html
                    Had he made other attempts before the one in July and his last (succesful) one. If not, how would he know that he was only being watched by a teacher or secretary? Just a fortunate coincidence for him?

                    Barr is saying all the right stuff, but talk is cheap. Don't expect that we'll ever know what really happened (which will foster even more convoluted conspiracy theories).

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                    • #70
                      Heh.

                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                        Not a conspiracy theorist, but this makes things even more suspicious in my eyes:



                        Had he made other attempts before the one in July and his last (succesful) one. If not, how would he know that he was only being watched by a teacher or secretary? Just a fortunate coincidence for him?

                        Barr is saying all the right stuff, but talk is cheap. Don't expect that we'll ever know what really happened (which will foster even more convoluted conspiracy theories).
                        Barr worked for the firm that defended Epstein and Barr’s son helped Epstein get a teaching gig. That weirdo was connected to everyone.

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                        • #72
                          I think this is the best story of the year. Better than my neighbors.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/n...gtype=Homepage

                            This story will be with us for a while, and may have far reaching effects.
                            SWISH!
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Heh.

                              Ha! That one got an out loud chuckle from me as well.

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                              • #75
                                Since we're posting Epstein memes.



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