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  • #1

    All politicians are hypocrites

    Okay, virtually all, but enough that it's the rule, IMO.

    From a 2004 interview with then senator-elect Obama:

    [YOUTUBE]eOnYnIDX0Eg[/YOUTUBE]

    BARACK OBAMA: ...When you rush these budgets that are a foot high and nobody has any idea what's in them and nobody has read them.

    RANDI RHODES: 14 pounds it was!

    BARACK OBAMA: Yeah. And it gets rushed through without any clear deliberation or debate then these kinds of things happen. And I think that this is in some ways what happened to the Patriot Act. I mean you remember that there was no real debate about that. It was so quick after 9/11 that it was introduced that people felt very intimidated by the administration.
    Exactly as I've said. Rushing bills through the process is fine and dandy when you're in power, but once you're on the outside, it sucks. I wish someone in Washington had some principles.

    Is everyone now disabused of the notion that President Obama is somehow different from the standard hypocritical Washington politician, from both sides of the aisle?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
    Okay, virtually all, but enough that it's the rule, IMO.

    From a 2004 interview with then senator-elect Obama:

    [YOUTUBE]eOnYnIDX0Eg[/YOUTUBE]



    Exactly as I've said. Rushing bills through the process is fine and dandy when you're in power, but once you're on the outside, it sucks. I wish someone in Washington had some principles.

    Is everyone now disabused of the notion that President Obama is somehow different from the standard hypocritical Washington politician, from both sides of the aisle?
    Seems like the senator from Connecticut has some principles (Kerry's VP candidate. can't remember his name).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
      Okay, virtually all, but enough that it's the rule, IMO.

      From a 2004 interview with then senator-elect Obama:

      [YOUTUBE]eOnYnIDX0Eg[/YOUTUBE]



      Exactly as I've said. Rushing bills through the process is fine and dandy when you're in power, but once you're on the outside, it sucks. I wish someone in Washington had some principles.

      Is everyone now disabused of the notion that President Obama is somehow different from the standard hypocritical Washington politician, from both sides of the aisle?
      I agree with this. Then again, I don't think I ever expected that he was different than any other politician.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        I agree with this. Then again, I don't think I ever expected that he was different than any other politician.
        I can't tell you how many people I spoke to last year believed Obama was different. That'd he'd clean up Washington, do away with "politics as usual..." oh wait, he said that himself.

        I don't think he's any worse than the average politician in this regard, but he's not any better, either.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
          I can't tell you how many people I spoke to last year believed Obama was different. That'd he'd clean up Washington, do away with "politics as usual..." oh wait, he said that himself.

          I don't think he's any worse than the average politician in this regard, but he's not any better, either.
          I agree (I can't believe I've said this twice now), lots of people said that. But lots of people say that every year. In fact, that's probably the biggest campaign promise by every candidate every election year. Change very rarely happens. Anyone who thinks one dude can change the political system in American is absolutely delusional.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
            I can't tell you how many people I spoke to last year believed Obama was different. That'd he'd clean up Washington, do away with "politics as usual..." oh wait, he said that himself.

            I don't think he's any worse than the average politician in this regard, but he's not any better, either.
            People are stupid. That's why I cast my vote for the candidate who I think sucks the least.
            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


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            • #7
              Grass is green.
              "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                I agree (I can't believe I've said this twice now), lots of people said that. But lots of people say that every year. In fact, that's probably the biggest campaign promise by every candidate every election year. Change very rarely happens. Anyone who thinks one dude can change the political system in American is absolutely delusional.
                President Obama certainly has a talent for causing millions to be delusional. How many people over 30 were enamored with him as "someone different"? These people have seen multiple presidential elections and plenty of other lower-level elections and never learned that lesson?

                That, more than anything, drove me crazy last year. And now no one will admit they were one of those people.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                  President Obama certainly has a talent for causing millions to be delusional. How many people over 30 were enamored with him as "someone different"? These people have seen multiple presidential elections and plenty of other lower-level elections and never learned that lesson?

                  That, more than anything, drove me crazy last year. And now no one will admit they were one of those people.
                  You can't really bag on people for having hope of change, even if that hope is not based on any rational thought.

                  Obama's talent for creating dilusion is not unique. There were plenty of Palin lunatics as well. There still are, surprisingly.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    You can't really bag on people for having hope of change, even if that hope is not based on any rational thought.
                    What about cautious hope instead of rabid hope? Can I prefer that?

                    Obama's talent for creating dilusion is not unique. There were plenty of Palin lunatics as well. There still are, surprisingly.
                    Fair point. Though I doubt she's going anywhere, so I don't worry much about her.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                      Fair point. Though I doubt she's going anywhere, so I don't worry much about her.
                      She's coming soon to a continental state near you.
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                        I can't tell you how many people I spoke to last year believed Obama was different. That'd he'd clean up Washington, do away with "politics as usual..." oh wait, he said that himself.

                        I don't think he's any worse than the average politician in this regard, but he's not any better, either.
                        Then don't make your motto: CHANGE. That's what people voted for. No more earmarks. Right. No more lobbyists. Right.

                        He would make a great actor as well once his term of messiah has run its course. He reads speeches from the teleprompter flawlessly.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                          President Obama certainly has a talent for causing millions to be delusional. How many people over 30 were enamored with him as "someone different"? These people have seen multiple presidential elections and plenty of other lower-level elections and never learned that lesson?

                          That, more than anything, drove me crazy last year. And now no one will admit they were one of those people.
                          I love the people who thought the prez was going to pay for their car and/or house. I recall seeing a youtube video to that effect.

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