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    I found this entertaining. I know that people are going to be appalled by the way this guy chased congressmen, but I thought it was funny. For some reason I have even less respect for congressmen than the average person.

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    That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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  • #2
    Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
    I found this entertaining. I know that people are going to be appalled by the way this guy chased congressmen, but I thought it was funny. For some reason I have even less respect for congressmen than the average person.
    What's to respect? Most of them start out as lawyers and decide that's too ethical a profession for them so they go to Congress.
    "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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    • #3
      This issue was never a big deal to me, but the longer President Obama goes without producing the original birth certificate, the more I believe he simply doesn't have it. The issue would have died a long time ago if he'd merely produced it with a smile and a quip.

      Something is up.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
        This issue was never a big deal to me, but the longer President Obama goes without producing the original birth certificate, the more I believe he simply doesn't have it. The issue would have died a long time ago if he'd merely produced it with a smile and a quip.

        Something is up.
        Lingo, how do you respond to the very conservative, anti-Obama, editors of The National Review who regard your views on this matter as foolish?

        http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...VjNzRmODE2NTI=

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
          This issue was never a big deal to me, but the longer President Obama goes without producing the original birth certificate, the more I believe he simply doesn't have it. The issue would have died a long time ago if he'd merely produced it with a smile and a quip.

          Something is up.
          How many CUFfers have their original birth certificates? I don't.
          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
            Lingo, how do you respond to the very conservative, anti-Obama, editors of The National Review who regard your views on this matter as foolish?

            http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...VjNzRmODE2NTI=
            PAC, I am an independent thinker. I find ideas I agree with from all sources of information, not just conservative ones. Just because the National Review says it doesn't mean I'm on board, and just because the New York Times says something doesn't mean I automatically disagree.

            How many CUFfers have their original birth certificates? I don't.
            How many CUF'ers have questions surrounding where they were born? 0?

            And if President Obama doesn't have his original birth certificate, then he should just say so. He can't stall for the three years.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
              PAC, I am an independent thinker. I find ideas I agree with from all sources of information, not just conservative ones. Just because the National Review says it doesn't mean I'm on board, and just because the New York Times says something doesn't mean I automatically disagree.



              How many CUF'ers have questions surrounding where they were born? 0?

              And if President Obama doesn't have his original birth certificate, then he should just say so. He can't stall for the three years.
              FTFA

              If the conspiracy theorists have evidence that President Obama went through the naturalization process, let them show it. But there is no such evidence, because this theory is based on unreality, as two minutes’ examining the claims of its proponents reveals. The hallmark of a conspiracy theory is that a lack of evidence for the theory is taken as yet more evidence for the theory. Indeed, the maddening thing about dealing with conspiracy hobbyists of this or any sort is the ever-shifting nature of their argument and their alleged evidence: Never mind the birth certificate, his step-grandmother said he was born in Kenya! (No, she didn’t.)
              "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                How many CUF'ers have questions surrounding where they were born? 0?

                And if President Obama doesn't have his original birth certificate, then he should just say so. He can't stall for the three years.
                To be fair, I'm sure he didn't know he was going to be president when he was born, or even when he went to college. The dude's moved around a lot, and those things get lost.

                Having said that, shouldn't the state of Hawaii have a copy of it hanging around?
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                  PAC, I am an independent thinker. I find ideas I agree with from all sources of information, not just conservative ones. Just because the National Review says it doesn't mean I'm on board, and just because the New York Times says something doesn't mean I automatically disagree.

                  How many CUF'ers have questions surrounding where they were born? 0?

                  And if President Obama doesn't have his original birth certificate, then he should just say so. He can't stall for the three years.
                  JLingo (the threat of an infringement suit prevents me from referring to you as JL), nobody can question your chops as an independent--indeed, unique--thinker. But I'm curious why you still harbor doubts on the subject. It has been established that within a couple of days after his birth, at least two Hawaii newspapers reported his birth in Honolulu. And copies of his birth certificate have been obtained from the responsible state agency (e.g.,http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg ) with multiple officials confirming its accuracy. Do you believe that many hundreds are in on a mass conspiracy? Wouldn't the profit motive be enough for at least one of them to come clean? Are they the same people that implanted explosive devices on all of the floors of both WTC towers without anyone noticing?
                  Last edited by PaloAltoCougar; 07-28-2009, 05:21 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                    JLingo (the threat of an infringement suit prevents me from referring to you as JL), nobody can question your chops as an independent--indeed, unique--thinker. But I'm curious why you still harbor doubts on the subject. It has been established that within a couple of days after his birth, at least two Hawaii newspapers reported his birth in Honolulu. And copies of his birth certificate have been obtained from the responsible state agency (e.g.,http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg ) with multiple officials confirming its accuracy. Do you believe that many hundreds are in on a mass conspiracy? Wouldn't the profit motive be enough for at least one of them to come clean? Are they the same people that implanted explosive devices on all of the floors of both WTC towers without anyone noticing?
                    Ah, so Hawaii DOES have a copy. Welp, that settles it (for real).
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                      Lingo, how do you respond to the very conservative, anti-Obama, editors of The National Review who regard your views on this matter as foolish?

                      http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...VjNzRmODE2NTI=
                      Hey, now, wait just a minute. Obama was born in 1961. Isn't it well-known that Lee Harvey Oswald had Obama's real birth records in his possession in 1963 when Jack Ruby shot him, and that the Dallas police then scattered them on the grassy knoll, from where they were recovered by Democrat operatives, before they eventually fell into Vince Foster's hands and were the real reason Vince was killed?
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        Are they the same people that implanted explosive devices on all of the floors of both WTC towers without anyone noticing?
                        How did you KNOW that? The black helicopters are on their way.
                        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                          Hey, now, wait just a minute. Obama was born in 1961. Isn't it well-known that Lee Harvey Oswald had Obama's real birth records in his possession in 1963 when Jack Ruby shot him, and that the Dallas police then scattered them on the grassy knoll, from where they were recovered by Democrat operatives, before they eventually fell into Vince Foster's hands and were the real reason Vince was killed?
                          Dude, you are SO in my foursome.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                            JLingo (the threat of an infringement suit prevents me from referring to you as JL), nobody can question your chops as an independent--indeed, unique--thinker. But I'm curious why you still harbor doubts on the subject. It has been established that within a couple of days after his birth, at least two Hawaii newspapers reported his birth in Honolulu. And copies of his birth certificate have been obtained from the responsible state agency (e.g.,http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg ) with multiple officials confirming its accuracy. Do you believe that many hundreds are in on a mass conspiracy? Wouldn't the profit motive be enough for at least one of them to come clean? Are they the same people that implanted explosive devices on all of the floors of both WTC towers without anyone noticing?
                            I was unaware of this information you present, like falafel and many others, I'd suspect. No need to paint me as a black helicopters nutjob.

                            Thank you for providing a solid rebuttal.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                              I was unaware of this information you present, like falafel and many others, I'd suspect. No need to paint me as a black helicopters nutjob.

                              Thank you for providing a solid rebuttal.
                              Brother Lingo, this is where you differentiate yourself from Hallelujah, for which you deserve some credit. You could have shifted the subject by taking a different (even deserved) shot at Obama, or provided some other smug response followed by an LOL. But no, you took the high road, conceded the point and moved on. Peace be unto you.

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