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  • #16
    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    Military Investigating 4 More Servicemen For Ties To White Nationalist Group
    That’s 11 members of Identity Evropa who are under investigation by the U.S. armed forces.
    I worked with a guy who had recently been on active duty somewhere in the South. He told me about how someone had tried to recruit him to a white nationalist group. No doubt there are others in the military who share this view. Most probably keep it quiet so they stay out of trouble.

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    • #17
      FBI Director: White-Supremacist Violence Accounts for Majority of Domestic-Terrorism Arrests Since Last October



      https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-director-...184720630.html

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      • #18
        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
        FBI Director: White-Supremacist Violence Accounts for Majority of Domestic-Terrorism Arrests Since Last October



        https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-director-...184720630.html
        It's great that Trump is cracking down on this. It was almost completely ignored by previous administrations.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by wapiti View Post
          It's great that Trump is cracking down on this. It was almost completely ignored by previous administrations.
          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wapiti View Post
            It's great that Trump is cracking down on this. It was almost completely ignored by previous administrations.
            OMG. You're just silly. Trump doesn't consider it to be much of a threat.

            Trump Shut Programs to Counter Violent Extremism
            The administration has hobbled the infrastructure designed to prevent atrocities like Pittsburgh.


            Set aside the question of whether President Donald Trump’s rhetorical flirtations with white nationalism enabled Saturday’s mass shooting in Pittsburgh. What’s undeniable is that his administration has hobbled the infrastructure designed to prevent such murders.

            In the waning days of Barack Obama’s administration, the Department of Homeland Security awarded a set of grants to organizations working to counter violent extremism, including among white supremacists. One of the grantees was Life After Hate, which The Hill has called “one of the only programs in the U.S. devoted to helping people leave neo-Nazi and other white supremacy groups.” Another grant went to researchers at the University of North Carolina who were helping young people develop media campaigns aimed at preventing their peers from embracing white supremacy and other violent ideologies. But soon after Trump took office, his administration canceled both of these grants. In its first budget, it requested no funding for any grants in this field.

            It’s part of a pattern of neglect. The grants were administered by the Office of Community Partnerships, which works intimately with local governments and community organizations to prevent jihadist and white-nationalist radicalization. In Obama’s last year, according to the former director, George Selim, the office boasted 16 full-time employees, roughly 25 contractors, and a budget of more than $21 million. The Trump administration has renamed it the Office of Terrorism Prevention Partnerships, and cut its staff to eight full-time employees and its budget to less than $3 million.
            He had that troll Seb Gorka, in his administration, himself a fan of or member of a Hungarian fascist organization. His insights weren't helpful:

            From a public-policy perspective, that’s exactly what the government should be doing. In 2017, the FBI concluded that white supremacists killed more Americans from 2000 to 2016 than “any other domestic extremist movement.” But Trump advisers have shrugged off these inconvenient facts. In an interview in 2017, White House Deputy Assistant to the President Sebastian Gorka declared that there “has never been a serious attack or a serious plot [in the United States] that was unconnected from isis or al-Qaeda.” When critics cited the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, Gorka responded, “It’s this constant ‘Oh, it’s the white man. It’s the white supremacists. That’s the problem.’ No, it isn’t.”
            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rogram/574237/
            Last edited by frank ryan; 07-27-2019, 04:58 PM.

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            • #21
              Here's more Trump getting serious about confronting right-wing domestic terrorism. Antifa isn't even a structured organization, and they've killed exactly zero people. It's the new boogeyman of the altright and conversatives post-Charlottesville.
              Trump gets wound up about them, but makes statements that white nationalist groups aren't a problem at all.


              Last edited by frank ryan; 07-28-2019, 02:44 PM.

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              • #22
                Trump, after neo-nazi rally that literally results in the shedding of innocent blood: 'There are good people on both sides." F*k trump and anybody who supports him.
                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                • #23
                  I can't keep track of all the mass shootings

                  The latest spree killer in California cited some favorite fascist literature:

                  The other, which included a photo of Smokey the Bear and a sign saying "Fire Danger High Today," stated: "Read Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard. Why overcrowd towns and pave more open space to make room for hordes of mestizos and Silicon Valley white tw**s?"

                  "Might is Right," first published in the late 1800s, has been described as a white supremacist text that promotes anarchy while vilifying Christianity. The book calls Jesus the "true Prince of Evil" and says that the natural order is a world at war in which the strong must vanquish the weak and white men must rule over those of color.
                  https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/fo...ing/index.html

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                  • #24
                    Another shooting. This time in El Paso, 19 dead and 40 injured.

                    Appears to be another white nationalist and an "identitarian" who hated Mexicans crossing the border.

                    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9038411.html

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                    • #25
                      Although I despise Trump, I think The left wing criticism of Trump is over the top in many respects. But he clearly deserves some (not all) of the blame for this rise in violence from the far right. Sending out a tweet is not good enough. He needs to clearly and emphatically condemn this kind of stuff, repeatedly. He needs to visit El Paso. His tendency to brush this stuff off so quickly, unlike other Presidents, is often used by the extremists to claim he is endorsing this kind of horrible activity.

                      In no way am I saying that Trump wants this stuff to happen, or that he doesn’t care or sympathize with the victims. But his failure to address it seriously and emphatically gives fodder to the left and is viewed as encouragement by the extreme right. He can’t continue to be oblivious to that.

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                      • #26


                        Har de har.
                        "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                        - SeattleUte

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                        • #27
                          I've shopped there many times as my travels have taken me there.

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                          • #28
                            Law enforcement that was on the scene shot the Dayton shooter in less than 60 seconds after he first opened fire. And yet he still shot 35 people, nine of them fatally. Amazing and depressing.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                              Law enforcement that was on the scene shot the Dayton shooter in less than 60 seconds after he first opened fire. And yet he still shot 35 people, nine of them fatally. Amazing and depressing.
                              While watching the news in the middle of the night, one of the witnesses stated that a man rushed the shooter and grabbed the barrel of the rifle. There was a brief struggle. The shooter let go and went to his hand guns and that is when the police shot him. If true, that man saved many lives and prevented many more from injury. And made it much easier for the police to do their job.
                              A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by CJF View Post
                                While watching the news in the middle of the night, one of the witnesses stated that a man rushed the shooter and grabbed the barrel of the rifle. There was a brief struggle. The shooter let go and went to his hand guns and that is when the police shot him. If true, that man saved many lives and prevented many more from injury. And made it much easier for the police to do their job.
                                It seems like this is happening more during these shootings. There was that high school kid that rushed the shooter in the class room and got killed in the process, but another kid was able to then take down the shooter.

                                Btw, the kid in Dayton was a leftist. So we had a far right, racist asshole yesterday and a far left asshole today -- some of the common denominators are they're both young, male, political extremists and they probably have never had girlfriends in their lives. I don't make the last point as a joke. Unless they're totally insane, like the guy who shot up the movie theater, guys that do this are massive losers looking to make a mark because they can't achieve socially, professionally, educationally or intimately. They find some weird cause that some other group of shut-ins adhere to which provides scapegoats and they want to gain recognition with that crowd by killing a bunch of people.

                                It's not much different from radical islamic terrorists.
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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