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  • #16
    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
    BAH! There are many great entrepreneurs out of Europe.



    A+! (this is only for IJR)
    Fine, without referring to me as ignorant, do you think the percentage is as great in Europe as it is in the U.S.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      Fine, without referring to me as ignorant, do you think the percentage is as great in Europe as it is in the U.S.
      I haven't properly researched it, but given population densities, I would guess that "yes."
      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        Goldman Sachs would have gone the way of Bear Sterms had the government not bailed out AIG.
        Please do me the honor of substantiating this claim.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
          Please do me the honor of substantiating this claim.
          Don't bother, Colly.

          Like me, you are not worthy of a response from SU. But we stupid people can stick together.
          "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


          "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
            Please do me the honor of substantiating this claim.
            Goldman Sachs did effectively go out of business. It's no longer an investment bank but a chartered commercial bank which it had to do to accept billions in bailout money.

            You don't undersand any of this. Stay out if it.
            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

            --Jonathan Swift

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              You don't undersand any of this. Stay out if it.
              Sorry, SU. I beat you to it.
              "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


              "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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              • #22
                Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                Don't bother, Colly.

                Like me, you are not worthy of a response from SU. But we stupid people can stick together.
                I'm going to give him a chance. This should be interesting.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Goldman Sachs did effectively go out of business. It's no longer an investment bank but a chartered commercial bank which it had to do to accept billions in bailout money.

                  You don't undersand any of this. Stay out if it.
                  LOL, it isn't an investment bank??? Stick to your area of expertise, Mark Peterson.
                  Last edited by byu71; 07-14-2009, 05:16 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    Goldman Sachs did effectively go out of business. It's no longer an investment bank but a chartered commercial bank which it had to do to accept billions in bailout money.

                    You don't undersand any of this. Stay out if it.
                    Not much substance here, but I'll forgive you as you are glib (as usual).

                    Do you understand what a hedge is?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      Goldman Sachs did effectively go out of business. It's no longer an investment bank but a chartered commercial bank which it had to do to accept billions in bailout money.

                      You don't undersand any of this. Stay out if it.
                      There is an article from Michael Lewis that is in either this month's Vanity Fair or last month's Vanity Fair that provides a very effective and concise analysis of what exactly happened at AIG and why AIG's failure threatened to also shut down the investment banks. The bailout of AIG effectively funneled money into the hands of Goldman Sachs. But Lewis also mentions in the article that Goldman also started betting against AIG (how, I don't know, maybe they shorted AIG's credit default swaps?).
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        There is an article from Michael Lewis that is in either this month's Vanity Fair or last month's Vanity Fair that provides a very effective and concise analysis of what exactly happened at AIG and why AIG's failure threatened to also shut down the investment banks. The bailout of AIG effectively funneled money into the hands of Goldman Sachs. But Lewis also mentions in the article that Goldman also started betting against AIG (how, I don't know, maybe they shorted AIG's credit default swaps?).
                        Of course.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                          There is an article from Michael Lewis that is in either this month's Vanity Fair or last month's Vanity Fair that provides a very effective and concise analysis of what exactly happened at AIG and why AIG's failure threatened to also shut down the investment banks. The bailout of AIG effectively funneled money into the hands of Goldman Sachs. But Lewis also mentions in the article that Goldman also started betting against AIG (how, I don't know, maybe they shorted AIG's credit default swaps?).
                          Credit default swap.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
                            Not much substance here, but I'll forgive you as you are glib (as usual).

                            Do you understand what a hedge is?
                            Are you trying to impress me, Mr. Goldman Sachs hero worshipper? Don't mess with me, this is my field.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              Are you trying to impress me, Mr. Goldman Sachs hero worshipper? Don't mess with me, this is my field.
                              LOL. Do your worst.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                LOL, it isn't an investment bank??? Stick to your area of expertise, Mark Peterson.
                                No, Goldman Sachs is not any investment bank any more. You're even an idiot about finance!!!
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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