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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #421
    Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
    This is my thought as well. And this one can't be blamed on his parents either. Mother died in November 2017 and is Father died a few years before. So a 19 your old adopted kid all alone.

    I did see CNN is saying something about the FBI having been given a heads up about this dude earlier.

    Radio has been a buzz this morning of AR-15 and AR type of rifles need to go. At this point I really don't have an issue with that. Other than someone is going to have to buy mine from me, not expect me to give it up for free. But this wont solve anything. People will use different types of guns to kill.

    I think social media, news, video games, familial detachment all have a part to play in all of these shootings.

    You can't take all of the guns away from Joe American and expect the problem to go away. Criminals will always have guns.

    Politicians are all about lip service though.
    I think in California y'all can't buy them now... yep, here it is: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article189213039.html

    No problem buying them in Texas so I guess now y'all won't have a chance when we decide to invade.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • beefytee
      Board eye candy
      • Mar 2009
      • 7542

      #422
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      And, the threat of overthrowing the government? Shiiiiiiiiit. My SKS isn't gonna do shit against the fire power of the USAF. Or the Army. And, I haven't even mentioned the Marines yet. Good God! The Marines could take on all the other branches combined and whoop them. But, me and a bunch of high schoolers can eat granola bars in the sandhills and overthrow the government? No way.
      I'm no expert on Vietnam, but I did watch the recent Ken Burns documentary. Sure the analogy isn't perfect, but your line of thinking is probably very similar to what the people who thought we could win in Vietnam thought.

      A armed civilian majority opposed to a government takeover, could do a lot to prevent it.

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      • PaloAltoCougar
        Semper infra dignitatem
        • Nov 2008
        • 16912

        #423
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
        I think in California y'all can't buy them now... yep, here it is: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article189213039.html

        No problem buying them in Texas so I guess now y'all won't have a chance when we decide to invade.
        I live within ten miles of the most advanced nuclear weapons development facility in the world. Who cares about a bunch of yokels with AR-15s?

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #424
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          I live within ten miles of the most advanced nuclear weapons development facility in the world. Who cares about a bunch of yokels with AR-15s?
          Thanks for the intel... we will take that in surprise attack first.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • PaloAltoCougar
            Semper infra dignitatem
            • Nov 2008
            • 16912

            #425
            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            Thanks for the intel... we will take that in surprise attack first.
            Stop by for breakfast on your way, just leave your heater at the door.

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27790

              #426
              To stop school shootings? Make all schools closed campuses, have metal detectors installed, and have armed police present (which they already are at all high schools in my area). Boom. Done. No more mass school shootings.


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              • Jarid in Cedar
                CS Institutional Memory
                • Jun 2009
                • 13234

                #427
                The low hanging fruit is to limit magazine size to 7. The exchange slows the carnage and gives a window for someone to physically intervene with the shooter
                "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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                • Uncle Ted
                  The Big 12 money shot.
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 28853

                  #428
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  To stop school shootings? Make all schools closed campuses, have metal detectors installed, and have armed police present (which they already are at all high schools in my area). Boom. Done. No more mass school shootings.
                  How about we make schools VR (aka. OASIS)... like in Ready Player One?



                  No schools in the real world. No more mass school shootings (in the real world).
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • old_gregg
                    scaly man fish
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 16915

                    #429
                    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                    The low hanging fruit is to limit magazine size to 7. The exchange slows the carnage and gives a window for someone to physically intervene with the shooter
                    i think magazine size is the right answer as a starting point, and it avoids the definitional issues that come when trying to regulate “assault rifles.” there’s no legitimate use for a magazine bigger than, say, 17 rounds (to accommodate all of the full size double stack 9mm guns floating around) that outweighs the risk of being used in a shooting. if there was also a way to limit the number of magazines per person that would be great, but that’s not practical. all the white dudes dressing up in 5.11 tacticool pants and playing gi joe at the gun show will protest, but it seems like a reasonable solution.
                    Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                    • The_Tick
                      Made something of myself
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7260

                      #430
                      Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                      The low hanging fruit is to limit magazine size to 7. The exchange slows the carnage and gives a window for someone to physically intervene with the shooter
                      Limit is already 5 in California. But again...only affects the folks that obey the laws.

                      I'm okay with all schools being closed campus. Two points of entry with metal detectors.

                      Shit...I have to walk through metal detectors to watch a minor league hockey game.

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                      • The_Tick
                        Made something of myself
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7260

                        #431
                        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                        I think in California y'all can't buy them now... yep, here it is: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article189213039.html

                        No problem buying them in Texas so I guess now y'all won't have a chance when we decide to invade.
                        Which is why I bought mine 18 months ago. Do I have a need for one? Probably not. But when I'm told that I can't own one, because my fucked up state government decides that, I'm going to buy one.

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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27790

                          #432
                          Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                          Limit is already 5 in California. But again...only affects the folks that obey the laws.

                          I'm okay with all schools being closed campus. Two points of entry with metal detectors.

                          Shit...I have to walk through metal detectors to watch a minor league hockey game.
                          Metal detectors and closed campuses are the only way to target school shootings, IMO. It should happen even at the elementary level. Right now I can walk into my sons high school campus and no one would even question me even if I didn’t have a visitor badge. Sure, it’s an inconvenience, but any law is going to be an inconvenience. It’ll also cost a little bit more, but any measure will cost something.

                          Increasing mental heath spending is a red herring, again IMO. The left used it to get more funding and the right uses it to dodge more regulations on guns. Mental heath is an issue but it’s certainly not the issue.


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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #433
                            Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                            Which is why I bought mine 18 months ago. Do I have a need for one? Probably not. But when I'm told that I can't own one, because my fucked up state government decides that, I'm going to buy one.
                            Good move... considering the folks in your state that are making these laws:

                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #434
                              Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                              Limit is already 5 in California. But again...only affects the folks that obey the laws.

                              I'm okay with all schools being closed campus. Two points of entry with metal detectors.

                              Shit...I have to walk through metal detectors to watch a minor league hockey game.
                              But how many magazines can you put in a clip?
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Pelado
                                Bald not naked
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 21085

                                #435
                                Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                Metal detectors and closed campuses are the only way to target school shootings, IMO. It should happen even at the elementary level. Right now I can walk into my sons high school campus and no one would even question me even if I didn’t have a visitor badge. Sure, it’s an inconvenience, but any law is going to be an inconvenience. It’ll also cost a little bit more, but any measure will cost something.

                                Increasing mental heath spending is a red herring, again IMO. The left used it to get more funding and the right uses it to dodge more regulations on guns. Mental heath is an issue but it’s certainly not the issue.


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                                The elementary school our kids attend recently installed a remote lock and camera setup at the front entrance. Have to call in through the intercom and get the reception desk to unlock the doors. Of course, the doors are made of glass, so someone could still get through if they really wanted to.

                                No metal detectors at the entrance, yet.

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