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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostWhat if I walked from Houston to Utah and you denied me entry into your house?Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by falafel View PostWell, are you violently trying to enter his house?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostI agree that more context may be needed for the Secretary's statement, but imagine a law enforcement officer saying the same thing just before a peaceful demonstration in D.C., a march in Selma, or even Burning Man. Is there any evidence that participants in the "caravan" are armed or a physical threat? Evidence other than Trump's typically baseless assurances that there are members of MS-13 and Middle Easterners hiding among the rest of the group?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostHoly Cow! How about taking thw quotation IN CONTEXT:
"We do not have any intention right now to shoot at people, but they will be apprehended, however," Nielsen said in an interview with Fox News. "But I also take my officers and agents, their own personal safety, extraordinarily seriously. They do have the ability, of course, to defend themselves."
Does that sentiment truly alarm you?"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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Originally posted by Commando View PostTrump's MO right now right before midterms is to ramp up the hysteria and scare tactics however he can. OH NOES THERE IS AN INVASION AFOOT! Oh f*k right off, you orange douche nozzle. His lieutenants aren't deviating from that script. Hence the 'AS OF RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BIT OF A MEXICAN STANDOFF IF YOU WILL WITH THE CARAVAN OF MALNOURISHED TODDLERS WHO ARE CLEARLY WELL PAID CRISIS ACTORS AND MIDDLE EASTERNERS WITH FAKE HISPANIC NAMES AND MS13 MEMBERS FROM HONDURAS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN LA GANG THAT EXPANDS OUTWARD NOT INWARD AND ALSO EACH OF WHOM FORGOT TO GET THEIR MS13 TATTOOS. OUR RIFLES ARE TRAINED ON THEIR NECKS BUT WE DON'T WANT TO MOW THEM ALL DOWN JUUUUST YET!You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski
Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst
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Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostIf I walk into a biker bar and announce to the room that I am carrying a gun and that I'm not afraid to use it, what's the message I'm sending?
And also may not be too good at analogies, with respect.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View PostThis development is playing right into the hands of the Repubs since their position actually aligns with the views of most Americans. Borders matter. President Trump is playing this brilliantly by making the Dems choose one of two unenviable choices. Behind Door #1 take the side of the "peoples without borders" against the POTUS and against the majority view of American voters. Or take door #2 and agree with President Trump's administration that no, you actually don't get to pass through a half-dozen other countries and expect us to throw out the welcome mat... regardless of the color of your skin.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostThat you’re sort of a dumbass.
And also may not be too good at analogies, with respect.Last edited by Non Sequitur; 10-27-2018, 08:49 AM."The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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I don't think this helps the "seeking asylum" argument...
Migrant caravan members reject offer to stay in Mexico
Under the "You are at home" plan, they would have received benefits if they applied for refugee status and stayed in the country's two southernmost states.
Several thousand Central American migrants turned down a Mexican offer of benefits if they applied for refugee status and stayed in the country's two southernmost states, vowing to set out before dawn Saturday to continue their long trek toward the U.S. border.
[...]"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostI don't think this helps the "seeking asylum" argument...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/m...mexico-n925171
https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ca-immigration
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Originally posted by LVAllen View PostConsidering that Mexico is not the least bit safe for refugees to remain long-term, I don't think it hurts the argument at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ca-immigration"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostEveryone knows and understands that border agents would defend themselves if necessary. To preemptively announce that you don't yet intend to shoot people is unnecessary and unproductive chest puffery. Throwing down the gauntlet does nothing but escalate tensions and increase the likelihood of violence, which I believe is Trump's dream scenario. For two years Trump has tried to paint immigrants as violent thugs and criminals who pose a threat to our country's security. Trump wants violence at the border. He wants to point to himself and say I told you so. He wants to show that immigrants are indeed violent and that they pose a threat.
Further, I fail to understand why people aren't annoyed at CNN for constructing a headline and article that is clearly misleading and tries itself to stir the passions that you are talking about. The way it was presented by the CNN article, which was technically accurate but misleading, is more likely to result in escalated tensions and, ultimately, violence, than the statement itself.
Either way, bragging about a gun in a biker bar is not a good idea.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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We need to return the Statue of Liberty back to France with the way people's attitudes have shifted. I don't mean the very real need for border control and protection, but the racist invective.
Not to mention the retooling of immigration policy to try and render that phrase/poetry inscripted on it incorrect.Last edited by frank ryan; 10-27-2018, 09:42 PM.
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