President Trump: Making America Great Again...

[Maximus]

Yeah, I am an Obamaist or Obamaism loyalist now!

BTW, did you miss this part?



As long as the government knows for sure that the adult they are with is a parent or relative for sure then they [the kids] should be with that adult. In that case, you can put down as "for" (keeping families together). Maybe the LDS church could talk to ancestry.com and get them to donate a bunch of DNA kits or even use a little bit of all that money they made off building/leasing malls to make a donation toward the effort... you know, since the church is so pro about keeping families together and stuff.

Amazing you speak sarcastically about being pro keeping families together as it is mock worthy

[Topper]

Amazing you speak sarcastically about being pro keeping families together as it is mock worthy

Not sure, I am following you as a result of your awkward syntax. Is it mock worthy to favor keeping families together, or is his sarcasm mocking the belief of favoring family unity? Or are you saying he is effectively mocking any opposition to the policy of keeping families together?

[Uncle Ted]

Amazing you speak sarcastically about being pro keeping families together as it is mock worthy

I tend to mock with sarcasm those that bitch but do little or nothing about the problem (or even try to understand problem).

On that subject, it seems Hillary is currently doing more than the LDS church to help this lingering problem: Hillary Clinton Raised A Stunning Amount Of Money For Migrant Kids

Good for her!... Not to be confused with "I'm with her":

[Walter Sobchak]

I appealed the bond decision and was confident of a win to get him home while his asylum case was pending. After about eight months in detention sitting on ice while the appeal was pending, he decided he'd try his luck in another country-- maybe Canada would take him-- to raise his family. o I got a letter from the court that I'd been dismissed as counsel, he withdrew his asylum application, and he was instantly removed.

So, did you ever hear back from the guy? Did he try his luck in Canada?

[Commando]

So, did you ever hear back from the guy? Did he try his luck in Canada?

No idea. I don't know much about immigrating to Canada, but I immediately knew he would be ineligible to apply for entrance to Canada because of the DUI, though.

[frank ryan]

Welp,George Will has had enough

George Will Leaves Republican Party, Urges Conservatives to Vote Against Donald Trump


http://fortune.com/2018/06/22/george...n_editorspicks

[Uncle Ted]

Welp,George Will has had enough

George Will Leaves Republican Party, Urges Conservatives to Vote Against Donald Trump


http://fortune.com/2018/06/22/george...n_editorspicks

About time George saw the light and joined the Libertarian party.


Sent from my iPhone (and not some dumb android device)!

[frank ryan]

Here is Will's column.

Vote against the GOP this November

Amid the carnage of Republican misrule in Washington, there is this glimmer of good news: The family-shredding policy along the southern border, the most telegenic recent example of misrule, clarified something. Occurring less than 140 days before elections that can reshape Congress, the policy has given independents and temperate Republicans — these are probably expanding and contracting cohorts, respectively — fresh if redundant evidence for the principle by which they should vote.

The principle: The congressional Republican caucuses must be substantially reduced. So substantially that their remnants, reduced to minorities, will be stripped of the Constitution’s Article I powers that they have been too invertebrate to use against the current wielder of Article II powers. They will then have leisure time to wonder why they worked so hard to achieve membership in a legislature whose unexercised muscles have atrophied because of people like them.

Consider the melancholy example of House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), who wagered his dignity on the patently false proposition that it is possible to have sustained transactions with today’s president, this Vesuvius of mendacities, without being degraded. In Robert Bolt’s play “A Man for All Seasons,” Thomas More, having angered Henry VIII, is on trial for his life. When Richard Rich, whom More had once mentored, commits perjury against More in exchange for the office of attorney general for Wales, More says: “Why, Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world . . . But for Wales!” Ryan traded his political soul for . . . a tax cut. He who formerly spoke truths about the accelerating crisis of the entitlement system lost everything in the service of a president pledged to preserve the unsustainable status quo.

Ryan and many other Republicans have become the president’s poodles, not because James Madison’s system has failed but because today’s abject careerists have failed to be worthy of it. As explained in Federalist 51: “Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place.” Congressional Republicans (congressional Democrats are equally supine toward Democratic presidents) have no higher ambition than to placate this president. By leaving dormant the powers inherent in their institution, they vitiate the Constitution’s vital principle: the separation of powers.

Recently Sen. Bob Corker, the Tennessee Republican who is retiring , became an exception that illuminates the depressing rule. He proposed a measure by which Congress could retrieve a small portion of the policymaking power that it has, over many decades and under both parties, improvidently delegated to presidents. Congress has done this out of sloth and timidity — to duck hard work and risky choices. Corker’s measure would have required Congress to vote to approve any trade restrictions imposed in the name of “national security.” All Senate Republicans worthy of the conservative label that all Senate Republicans flaunt would privately admit that this is conducive to sound governance and true to the Constitution’s structure. But the Senate would not vote on it — would not allow it to become just the second amendment voted on this year .

This is because the amendment would have peeved the easily peeved president. The Republican-controlled Congress, which waited for Trump to undo by unilateral decree the border folly they could have prevented by actually legislating, is an advertisement for the unimportance of Republican control.

The Trump whisperer regarding immigration is Stephen Miller, 32, whose ascent to eminence began when he became the Savonarola of Santa Monica High School . Corey Lewandowski, a Trump campaign official who fell from the king’s grace but is crawling back (he works for Vice President Pence’s political action committee), recently responded on Fox News to the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome taken from her parents at the border. Lewandowski replied: “Wah, wah.” Meaningless noise is this administration’s appropriate libretto because, just as a magnet attracts iron filings, Trump attracts, and is attracted to, louts.

In today’s GOP, which is the president’s plaything, he is the mainstream. So, to vote against his party’s cowering congressional caucuses is to affirm the nation’s honor while quarantining him. A Democratic-controlled Congress would be a basket of deplorables, but there would be enough Republicans to gum up the Senate’s machinery, keeping the institution as peripheral as it has been under their control and asphyxiating mischief from a Democratic House. And to those who say, “But the judges, the judges!” the answer is: Article III institutions are not more important than those of Articles I and II combined.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.61e2208c4dc7

[creekster]

Here is Will's column.

Vote against the GOP this November









https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.61e2208c4dc7

Frank, do you agree with what Will says in this column? Both in conclusion and in reasoning?

[Walter Sobchak]

Here is Will's column.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.61e2208c4dc7

That was excellent, per usual. He's right of course... Republican-led Congresses have sucked. IMHO the wheels started coming off with Gingrich, but it's been especially bad since 2001. As Congress has shirked more and more of its responsibility and has ceded more and more powers to the executive branch (as Will correctly observes), it should surprise no one that Trump gets as much traction as he has (and does). People are sick of the inaction, the status quo, the bull shit. If we have to cut off our nose to spite our face, then (I guess) so be it. I really don't things change at all with the Dems in charge.

[Maximus]

About time George saw the light and joined the Libertarian party.


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libertarians dont support trump

[Topper]

That was excellent, per usual. He's right of course... Republican-led Congresses have sucked. IMHO the wheels started coming off with Gingrich, but it's been especially bad since 2001. As Congress has shirked more and more of its responsibility and has ceded more and more powers to the executive branch (as Will correctly observes), it should surprise no one that Trump gets as much traction as he has (and does). People are sick of the inaction, the status quo, the bull shit. If we have to cut off our nose to spite our face, then (I guess) so be it. I really don't things change at all with the Dems in charge.

It will simply get worse in a different direction.

Prediction, when and if the Dems grab control, unless sufficient GOP remain to gum up the works, these groups will benefit: (1) labor unions, (2) large companies, (3) special interest minorities, (4) government bureaucracies, and (5) groups that benefit from unfunded liabilities.

Groups that will suffer (1) free enterprise, (2) small businesses, (3) healthcare, (4) libertarians, and (5) unfunded governmental obligations payers (taxpayers, especially future ones).

Not a fair exchange by my calculation.

[Topper]

libertarians dont support trump

I thought George Will opposed Trump as well, thereby qualifying him to be a Libertarian.

[Maximus]

It will simply get worse in a different direction.

Prediction, when and if the Dems grab control, unless sufficient GOP remain to gum up the works, these groups will benefit: (1) labor unions, (2) large companies, (3) special interest minorities, (4) government bureaucracies, and (5) groups that benefit from unfunded liabilities.

Groups that will suffer (1) free enterprise, (2) small businesses, (3) healthcare, (4) libertarians, and (5) unfunded governmental obligations payers (taxpayers, especially future ones).

Not a fair exchange by my calculation.

trump is hurting free enterprise and small businesses with trade wars. he his hurting more people with healthcare by forcing obamacares collapse which will only lead to more people wanting universal healthcare. he is hurting tax payers and libertarians through his trade war.

So sounds like it cant get worse

[Topper]

trump is hurting free enterprise and small businesses with trade wars. he his hurting more people with healthcare by forcing obamacares collapse which will only lead to more people wanting universal healthcare. he is hurting tax payers and libertarians through his trade war.

So sounds like it cant get worse

There is nothing Dems can do to lessen the fears of small business owning libertarians. We want to go about our way with as little government intrusion as possible. So all big government types, Dem or GOP, are an anathema to our way of living. Trump is undesirable but so is the Democratic Party. No matter how you sell snake oil, it is still snake oil. We don't want extra government programs, we don't want higher taxes or higher prices, we don't want social media outrage, or we don't want identity politics. We want the peace, quiet and opportunity to work in our corners of society and to be left alone. In the end, we'll make our corners of society better places by being good citizens, paying our taxes, obeying the law and asking as little of society as possible. If everybody emulated this model, society would continue to improve without the upheaval statists demand.