Trigger warnings, safe spaces, and fascism on college campuses

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  • Color Me Badd Fan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 12519

    #346
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    I can only smh. What is wring with these pansies, err, people?
    Michael Lewis delves deep into the archives of the legendary reporter turned novelist to discover what made the man in the white suit the voice of a journalistic generation.


    I posted the link above in another thread. It's well worth reading.

    I think there are true believers in this nonsense and they're narcissists and/or have paranoid personalities. Then there are the others who operate in that sphere who act out in an effort to gain social status. They gain the status through either claiming victimhood themselves or by going the PC Bro/White Knight route.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Donuthole
      Official Outgayer
      • Nov 2008
      • 25231

      #347
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Lionel Shriver with a brilliant op-ed piece in the NYT. God bless her.

      (hat tip to SU for the link)

      http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/op...?smid=fb-share
      That really was brilliant. Kudos to her.
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      • Pelado
        Bald not naked
        • Sep 2010
        • 21096

        #348
        Janet Napolitano on free speech:

        To thoughtfully answer these questions requires an examination of the history of free speech at our universities, the interplay with other social movements, and the values we profess to hold so dear. I begin, however, by agreeing with the sentiment expressed by Clark Kerr, the George Washington of the University of California:

        “The University is not engaged in making ideas safe for students. It is engaged in making students safe for ideas. Thus it permits the freest expression of views before students, trusting to their good sense in passing judgment on those views. Only in this way can it best serve American democracy.”
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        • Color Me Badd Fan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 12519

          #349
          "Ze, xe, zhe, what do you prefer?"

          "I'm fine with 'His Majesty.'"

          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69514

            #350
            Interesting article on how we are guilty of the safe space phenomenon in LDS culture:

            Over the past few years new stories have appeared about something called trigger warnings and microaggressions. College students, they report, were increasingly demanding that material they deemed …


            Would love to read the full article. An excerpt:

            From our earliest days in Primary we are taught various versions of the statement, “I feel it therefore it must be true.” Negative or confusing feelings mean something is wrong, and good feelings indicate truth and goodness. There is, of course, some truth to this statement, and learning to discern spiritual feelings is part of discipleship. Yet it can also be misleading. Our feelings do not always reflect truth. Feeling uncomfortable does not mean the object of discomfort is the source of that discomfort.

            Another useful concept discussed in the Atlantic piece is “mental filtering.” Mental filter is “pick[ing] out a negative detail in any situation and dwell[ing] on it exclusively, thus perceiving that the whole situation is negative.” Leahy, Holland, and McGinn refer to this as “negative filtering,” which they define as “focus[ing] almost exclusively on the negatives and seldom notic[ing] the positives.”

            Notice how mental filtering is the exact opposite of the 13th Article of Faith’s charge to seek out that which is lovely and virtuous and praiseworthy. Spiritually hypersensitive people flip this injunction on its head. Instead of seeking the good, such individuals are on high alert for anything that does not conform to their standards of purity. They can spot a supposed sin from a mile away, and once identified, it becomes the sole object of attention. It’s a level of negative focus that is able to dismiss the wisdom and insight of a 1500 word essay because one or two of the words are deemed offensive.
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            • Katy Lied
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 9435

              #351
              So, will the Supremes take up whether an asian band can call themselves "Slant?"

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              • swampfrog
                Social Distance Warrior
                • Feb 2011
                • 2267

                #352
                I'm not even sure how to begin processing this:

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                • byu71
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22070

                  #353
                  I wish I knew how to create a safe space from calls where I can't understand the fellow's English on the other side of the line.

                  Just to make sure I don't say something in public that is biggotted, for you folks up to date on PC stuff, is that a biggotted statement?

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                  • Applejack
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3812

                    #354
                    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    I wish I knew how to create a safe space from calls where I can't understand the fellow's English on the other side of the line.

                    Just to make sure I don't say something in public that is biggotted, for you folks up to date on PC stuff, is that a biggotted statement?
                    Yes

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                    • creekster
                      It is NOT a monkey!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22661

                      #355
                      Originally posted by swampfrog View Post
                      I'm not even sure how to begin processing this:

                      https://youtu.be/C9SiRNibD14
                      Wow. That's one of the dumbest rants I have ever heard. I would love to hear her decolonized alternative to Newtonian physics.
                      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                      • falafel
                        loves to talk on things
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 37895

                        #356
                        Originally posted by creekster View Post
                        Wow. That's one of the dumbest rants I have ever heard. I would love to hear her decolonized alternative to Newtonian physics.
                        Some in the comments were saying that this was a debate class and that she was only given that position to argue. Hard to tell from the video. If those comments are her own, yes she's and idiot.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                        • Flystripper
                          Degenerate Gambler
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14088

                          #357
                          That woman was faculty? wow not good.
                          Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                          • byu71
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22070

                            #358
                            Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                            Yes
                            I really want to be PC and not a biggot. So how do you handle that situation?

                            Stay patient and have the person spell out the words? Just say yes everytime he stops talking? How do you PC folks handle the situation?

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                            • creekster
                              It is NOT a monkey!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22661

                              #359
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              Some in the comments were saying that this was a debate class and that she was only given that position to argue. Hard to tell from the video. If those comments are her own, yes she's and idiot.
                              The title says it's science faculty meeting with "fallists". Moreover debates aren't usually interrupted by someone demanding an apology for the "panel." That said, I can only hope she didnt beIieve that tripe.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 37895

                                #360
                                Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                                That woman was faculty? wow not good.
                                She's not faculty, she's part of student leadership. Which, still not good.

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                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

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