to hell with the bnp

[frank ryan]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...successes.html. I'm surprised no one has talked about this but these uk nazis took 2 seats in the eu parliment. There has been a lot of talk about socialists but can someone chime and explain the appeal of these racist european nationalist parties?

[I.J. Reilly]

For all of the hand wringing in Europe about America's racist past, there is a real problem with modern racism all across Europe. The major urban centers, with Paris and London being some of the worst offenders, suffer from great racial divides. There has been an explosion of immigration that has been coupled with a reactionary xenophobia. Add to that the much higher fertility rates of the immigrants and opportunistic politicians yelling about the dangers of "multiculturalism" and you get the type of mainstream hatespeach you see from the BNP.

I actually fear that this may be the direction the U.S. could head in. However, the U.S. misses one of the main ingredients that has made this possible in many places in Europe, fractured political parties. This is a benefit of the two party system, in that the extremes on either side are held in check. There is also the historical side, as the U.S. has a long-standing tradition of being a "nation of immigrants". For many of these countries they are seeing unprescedented waves of immigration that they have never before dealt with.

[frank ryan]

For all of the hand wringing in Europe about America's racist past, there is a real problem with modern racism all across Europe. The major urban centers, with Paris and London being some of the worst offenders, suffer from great racial divides. There has been an explosion of immigration that has been coupled with a reactionary xenophobia. Add to that the much higher fertility rates of the immigrants and opportunistic politicians yelling about the dangers of "multiculturalism" and you get the type of mainstream hatespeach you see from the BNP.

I actually fear that this may be the direction the U.S. could head in. However, the U.S. misses one of the main ingredients that has made this possible in many places in Europe, fractured political parties. This is a benefit of the two party system, in that the extremes on either side are held in check. There is also the historical side, as the U.S. has a long-standing tradition of being a "nation of immigrants". For many of these countries they are seeing unprescedented waves of immigration that they have never before dealt with.

on the other board, (cougarguard) myboynoah said that a lot of french lds voted for le pen, which i found disturbing. race relations is one area where i believe the us has advanced europe, although i do worry about the re invigoration of the racist right

[il Padrino Ute]

on the other board, (cougarguard) myboynoah said that a lot of french lds voted for le pen, which i found disturbing. race relations is one area where i believe the us has advanced europe, although i do worry about the re invigoration of the racist right

What are your concerns about the racist left?

[frank ryan]

racist left? i know liberals can be racist, but i'm sorry ipu i dont see an organized racist left

[il Padrino Ute]

racist left? i know liberals can be racist, but i'm sorry ipu i dont see an organized racist left

How about Sharpton? Or Jackson? Or Farakan? Or Wright?

[frank ryan]

How about Sharpton? Or Jackson? Or Farakan? Or Wright?

oh yeah, the black nationalist guys, they scare me too, more so farakhan and wright because they are avowed black nationalists where sharpton and jackson just plain take advantage of their communities. they scare me too and i think their will gain power just as white nationalist groups do. they have a sick synergy going on. i dont know, though that farakhan is a "lefist" he probably is anti-abortion and gay marriage.

that reminds i read that racist leader tom metzger once gave money to the nation of islam and is on speaking terms with farakhan. i guess they both hate jews

[il Padrino Ute]

that reminds i read that racist leader tom metzger once gave money to the nation of islam and is on speaking terms with farakhan. i guess they both hate jews

Wow. Anti-Semitism: bringing hate together.

[frank ryan]

Wow. Anti-Semitism: bringing hate together.

i've heard david duke is pro-palestinian. but sure he is not so much pro poor oppressed muslim people and he is anti-jew. i'm sure he is happy with the results in iran

[il Padrino Ute]

i've heard david duke is pro-palestinian.

Perhaps someone should point this out to Mike Waters.

[frank ryan]

Perhaps someone should point this out to Mike Waters.

i'm sympathetic to the plight of the palestinians, but i also believe israel has a right to nationhood. i dont think US foreign policy has been the greatest in this regard but i also believe (some not all) of the member of the arab league have just exploited the problem rather than really making a humanitarian difference. could you imagine how distraught al qaeda would be if that quandry was ever solved?

[Jarid in Cedar]

i'm sympathetic to the plight of the palestinians, but i also believe israel has a right to nationhood. i dont think US foreign policy has been the greatest in this regard but i also believe (some not all) of the member of the arab league have just exploited the problem rather than really making a humanitarian difference. could you imagine how distraught al qaeda would be if that quandry was ever solved?

Hate groups just find a new target for their ire. They will still have their miserable lives to fuel their fire. My BIL was involved with neo-nazi groups in southern Utah when I first got married. Much of his anti-semetism rants dealt with "they control all the money", "they manipulate the banks to keep everon else poor", etc. He was a high school drop out that burned out on LSD.
Yep, the "jews" were definitely the "reason" he was financially unsuccessful.