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  • I kind of like the California rule that allows the top 2 vote getters on the ballot. In districts that heavily lean towards one party or the other, it give the people not of that party more of a say in who is elected. It also moderates the candidates and moves them away from the fringe.

    I also prefer the ranked ballot system to the single choice plurality system for this reason as well.

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    • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
      My Dad always says this. I never really understand its real meaning.
      Hey stranger. Welcome back.
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      • Ha. I stopped posting because work systems were blocking CS. Problem solved, I got a new job and there is no more blockage!

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        • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
          Ha. I stopped posting because work systems were blocking CS. Problem solved, I got a new job and there is no more blockage!
          Blocking CS? What a bunch of Nazis! They sound like Google.
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          • This reminds me of an old game I had to play for one of my poli sci classes back in undergrad. Kinda fun. I especially love the pissed look on the opposing side when you completely screw them over.

            http://www.redistrictinggame.org/game/launchgame.php
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            • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
              Do you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.

              State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.

              Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
              Tell me about 'California Immigration Policy and Benefits.' Inquiring minds want to know...
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              • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                Ha. I stopped posting because work systems were blocking CS. Problem solved, I got a new job and there is no more blockage!
                I had that same problem for a while, then all of a sudden it was available again. I really don't know who to thank for that (I didn't change jobs)

                Oh, and welcome back!
                Last edited by happyone; 06-27-2019, 05:44 PM.

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                • Originally posted by happyone View Post
                  I had that same problem for a while, then all of a sudden it was available again. I really don't know who to thank for that (I didn't change jobs)
                  It was the Albanians. They give and they take.
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                  • Originally posted by Lost Student View Post
                    It was the Albanians. They give and they take.
                    I wouldn't put it past them

                    I may be small, but I'm slow.

                    A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."

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                    • Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                      How do they really address it when the voting districts are drawn specifically to keep the party in power, in power?
                      Exactly. This is the most comical piece of Roberts’ opinion. “Gerrymandering is bad. Let the legislature and the voters fix it.” Robbing banks is bad. Let the bank robbers decide the punishment so that people won’t rob banks anymore.


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                      I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                      • Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
                        Exactly. This is the most comical piece of Roberts’ opinion. “Gerrymandering is bad. Let the legislature and the voters fix it.” Robbing banks is bad. Let the bank robbers decide the punishment so that people won’t rob banks anymore.


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                        Are you suggesting the scotus should write laws making bank robbing illegal?
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                        • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                          Tell me about 'California Immigration Policy and Benefits.' Inquiring minds want to know...
                          You are an immigration attorney, no? You have stats in the back of your pocket I am sure. I will put some data together.

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                          • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                            You are an immigration attorney, no? You have stats in the back of your pocket I am sure. I will put some data together.
                            Drumpf just gave his data... This is why the Dems are going to lose pushing immigration (again).



                            All you have to do is look at all the homeless folks in California. If a country can't even take care of its own how can it be expected to take care of all the orphans of the world?
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                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post
                              Do you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.

                              State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.

                              Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.

                              Good lord man. Take a deep breathe. Do you realize we are talking about gerrymandering? Not every single characteristic of California. But with Gerrymandering, they are a shining example.

                              Now I'm aware should I say anything positive about California it will trigger The_Tick.
                              Last edited by frank ryan; 06-28-2019, 06:57 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by happyone View Post
                                I had that same problem for a while, then all of a sudden it was available again. I really don't know who to thank for that (I didn't change jobs)

                                Oh, and welcome back!
                                I can get to CS and see what new posts there are, but if I try to click on any thread, it's a no-go. It was good for a few weeks a little while ago, but then got filtered again.

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