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  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Knock it off. The US constitution was signed in 1787. The world's first vaccination occurred in England in 1796. Medicine was a joke until the mid to late nineteenth century - it probably did as much harm as it did good.
    Have you not considered that SU likes it that way?
    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Knock it off. The US constitution was signed in 1787. The world's first vaccination occurred in England in 1796. Medicine was a joke until the mid to late nineteenth century - it probably did as much harm as it did good.
      This is beside the point. But it wasn't a total joke. Stop being such a smarty pants.

      https://www.britannica.com/science/h...e-18th-century

      Vaccines didn't just happen from one day to the next. Medicine was launched.
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      • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        No. He's the one who wanted life terms for senators as well as judges.
        But how did he feel about tractors?
        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          This is beside the point. But it wasn't a total joke. Stop being such a smarty pants.
          Folks, this is the closest thing we have to SU admitting he is wrong about something.
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          • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
            Theodoric of York, Medieval Barber! They should have included a dental plan as well; poor George.
            Speaking of George, he was a fan of bloodletting. Might actually be what killed him - or at least contributed to his death.

            Bloodletting was also popular in the young United States of America, where Benjamin Rush (a signatory of the Declaration of Independence) saw the state of the arteries as the key to disease, recommending levels of bloodletting that were high even for the time. George Washington asked to be bled heavily after he developed a throat infection from weather exposure. Within a ten-hour period, a total of 124–126 ounces (3.75 liters) of blood was withdrawn prior to his death from a throat infection in 1799
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodl...n%20in%201799.
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            • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Speaking of George, he was a fan of bloodletting. Might actually be what killed him - or at least contributed to his death.



              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodl...n%20in%201799.
              That reminds me of the scene in the John Adams miniseries where he’s sick in the Netherlands and the doctor is bloodletting him. Yuck!
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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                That reminds me of the scene in the John Adams miniseries where he’s sick in the Netherlands and the doctor is bloodletting him. Yuck!
                It is crazy how common it was. On top of all of the erroneous theories on what it was supposed to accomplish, I guess it gave some kind of temporary feeling of euphoria, which helped convince people it was beneficial.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  It is crazy how common it was. On top of all of the erroneous theories on what it was supposed to accomplish, I guess it gave some kind of temporary feeling of euphoria, which helped convince people it was beneficial.
                  Lightheadedness?
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    It is crazy how common it was. On top of all of the erroneous theories on what it was supposed to accomplish, I guess it gave some kind of temporary feeling of euphoria, which helped convince people it was beneficial.
                    Perhaps because it was the scientific consensus of the time?

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                    • Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                      Perhaps because it was the scientific consensus of the time?
                      I wonder what scientific consensus we have today that will be looked down upon in another 200 years the same way we view blood letting.

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                        Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                        Perhaps because it was the scientific consensus of the time?
                        Nope. The medical community didn’t even start using the scientific method until the late 1800s. Prior to that it was mainly the observational method and folklore. It was precisely the scientific method that debunked bloodletting.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          Nope. The medical community didn’t even start using the scientific method until the late 1800s. Prior to that it was mainly the observational method and folklore. It was precisely the scientific method that debunked bloodletting.
                          I don't think he meant scientific method. Just general agreement among practitioners that it worked.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Nope. The medical community didn’t even start using the scientific method until the late 1800s. Prior to that it was mainly the observational method and folklore. It was precisely the scientific method that debunked bloodletting.
                            What!? This is absolutely not true. The Enlightenment is defined as the beginning of the scientific revolution and rediscovery of the scientific method. Of course, they didn't have all the answers, but that is what science is all about. What nonsense have you been reading?
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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                            • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              I don't think he meant scientific method. Just general agreement among practitioners that it worked.

                              So, like, a group of doctors who believe what they are doing helps cure their patients because that is what they have personally observed in their limited, anecdotal experience? Glad we have the scientific method now to prevent a group like that from speaking up and misleading people.
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                              • Medicine employed the scientific method in the eighteenth century, long before the"late 1800s."

                                https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/-/media/fil...d-medicine.pdf
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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