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Originally posted by creekster View PostTake it up with your state's courts and legislatures.Last edited by BlueK; 06-27-2019, 10:52 AM.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostSure, but it's still a constitutional issue.
At this point we are just repeating ourselves. You simply dislike the result, which is fine. I dislike the gerrymandering, but think the reasoning of the opinion (which does not endorse gerrymandering) is correct.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostI think it's a Constitutional right for a citizen to be represented the same as their neighbor even if their political preferences are different. How is that off base?Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
"The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostCalifornia is an example of Democrats doing the right thing. They’ve taken redistricting out of partisan hands. They could have an all D delegation if they wanted to.
It’s hard for people’s voices to be heard when their legislative seats are gerrymandered to hell
State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.
Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
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Originally posted by SoCalCoug View PostFix ALL gerrymandering. It's wrong regardless of who does it.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by BlueK View PostState's courts? That's exactly what people did in these cases and they all ruled against the gerrymandering. So now the Supreme court has reversed it. Ok, maybe the legislatures then. The tide I think is to push back on the extreme partisanship fortunately.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by frank ryan View PostCalifornia is an example of Democrats doing the right thing. They’ve taken redistricting out of partisan hands. They could have an all D delegation if they wanted to.
It’s hard for people’s voices to be heard when their legislative seats are gerrymandered to hellWhen a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostDo you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.
State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.
Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostBut I hear now they have banned those awful e-cigarettes in San Fran and are handing out those funny looking drink straws for free since restaurants stop giving them to folks... how bad can it be?
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostDo you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.
State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.
Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
The funny thing is that the result of California's anti-gerrymandering reform is that seats never change parties. The supposedly neutral commission drew lines that have resulted in an almost guaranteed democratic majority in perpetuity, which is the precise result that BlueK and others seem to fear. I love a lot of things about living in california, but nothing about state government is on that list.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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Originally posted by creekster View PostYes, it is hard to think of California as a shining example in almost anything. And if the silicon valley boom ever goes bust, as it will someday, things will get very, very messy."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by creekster View PostYes, it is hard to think of California as a shining example in almost anything. And if the silicon valley boom ever goes bust, as it will someday, things will get very, very messy.
The funny thing is that the result of California's anti-gerrymandering reform is that seats never change parties. The supposedly neutral commission drew lines that have resulted in an almost guaranteed democratic majority in perpetuity, which is the precise result that BlueK and others seem to fear. I love a lot of things about living in california, but nothing about state government is on that list.
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostDo you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.
State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.
Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
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Originally posted by The_Tick View PostDo you live in California? This place is so fucked it isn't even funny. The Democrats are running people out of the state in droves. They just changed the law so that the top two vote getters are THE ONLY TWO ON THE BALLOT. So...it doesn't matter who the Republicans put up, you will never get to vote for that candidate.
State is in debt. Homelessness is on the rise and out of control. Immigration policy and benefits is unsustainable. Pensions for government employees and service agencies (Police, Fire, Corrections) are underfunded. But you know what? An example to the entire fucking country says you.
Also...roads have gone to shit. Gas tax is right around .75 a gallon. We are building a fucking high speed rail between Merced and Bakersfield. I live in Bakersfield. You know what is between Merced and Bakersfield? Baby carrots, Almonds, Halo Oranges, Oil, and fucking tumbleweeds. 10.6 billion dollars for Bakersfield to Merced. THAT BOILS DOWN TO 89 MILLION PER MILE. A steal at half the price.
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