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  • cowboy
    Homer Weems
    • Dec 2008
    • 5740

    #1621
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    I agree. She seems like a pretty amazing person. Will be pretty cool to have a working mom on the SC.
    I've been thinking the same thing. Whoever advised Trump on this knocked it out of the park, which means Trump will inevitably fire him, even if Biden loses.
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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27802

      #1622
      Looks like the Dems have officially found a way to not vote for her in spite of her credentials. They will claim their “no” vote is because anyone that accepts the nomination under these circumstances (election year, replacing RBG, etc. ) is unqualified.


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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 37877

        #1623
        Originally posted by cowboy View Post
        I've been thinking the same thing. Whoever advised Trump on this knocked it out of the park, which means Trump will inevitably fire him, even if Biden loses.
        Trump nominated her to the federal appeals bench in 2017, so it looks like the advisor as weathered at least one storm.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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        • Non Sequitur
          Where did I put my bodkin
          • Nov 2008
          • 5773

          #1624
          Originally posted by falafel View Post
          Trump nominated her to the federal appeals bench in 2017, so it looks like the advisor as weathered at least one storm.
          I hope the Dems don't take the bait and try to demonize Barrett. McConnell has the votes, so the Dems need to take the high road, respectfully question her, let her be confirmed and avoid looking petty. This isn't a hill to die on.
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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69482

            #1625
            Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
            I hope the Dems don't take the bait and try to demonize Barrett. McConnell has the votes, so the Dems need to take the high road, respectfully question her, let her be confirmed and avoid looking petty. This isn't a hill to die on.
            Which of course means they will likely die on it anyway.
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            • Sullyute
              a day late/a dollar short
              • Jul 2010
              • 3308

              #1626
              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
              Garland deserved a vote. So does Barrett. While McConnell et al said really stupid things to justify their behavior toward Garland, Democrats are showing their share of hypocrisy in singing different tunes then and now. Democrats are in a more defensible position, but two wrongs don't make a right. The right thing, then and now, is to allow a Supreme Court nominee a vote on the floor.
              I agree 100% with this post.
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              • Sullyute
                a day late/a dollar short
                • Jul 2010
                • 3308

                #1627
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Which of course means they will likely die on it anyway.
                If they do, then they may galvanize the electorate against them. Dems need new leadership in a big way. I thought Cory Booker was a rising star, but he lost a lot of shine during the last SCOTUS appointment proceedings.
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                • UVACoug
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2685

                  #1628
                  Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                  I hope the Dems don't take the bait and try to demonize Barrett. McConnell has the votes, so the Dems need to take the high road, respectfully question her, let her be confirmed and avoid looking petty. This isn't a hill to die on.
                  Agreed. Honestly, I think their best bet may be to ignore the confirmation battle and keep the focus on COVID and Trump. Making this election about Barrett would be a horrible mistake for Democrats, IMO.

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853

                    #1629
                    Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                    Garland deserved a vote. So does Barrett. While McConnell et al said really stupid things to justify their behavior toward Garland, Democrats are showing their share of hypocrisy in singing different tunes then and now. Democrats are in a more defensible position, but two wrongs don't make a right. The right thing, then and now, is to allow a Supreme Court nominee a vote on the floor.
                    Garland did get a vote (an unofficial one)... The GOP'ers controlling the senate voted not to vote.
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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #1630
                      Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                      I hope the Dems don't take the bait and try to demonize Barrett. McConnell has the votes, so the Dems need to take the high road, respectfully question her, let her be confirmed and avoid looking petty. This isn't a hill to die on.
                      Yeah but I am hoping Harris (and "Spartacus") will lead the charge again!

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                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #1631
                        Originally posted by Solon View Post

                        This observation is really smart, SU.
                        I hadn't thought of this scenario in quite this way, but - you're right - from Croesus to Antigone, timing is everything.
                        It's on my mind because I'm reading the Histories cover to cover for the first time. Love Xerxes. Xerxes is in the pantheon of fantastic anti-heroes of course. Ahab, Judge Holden, Satan, Napoleon, some others.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • wapiti
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2064

                          #1632
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          I like this nominee. Reaction from the left has been interesting. Seeing progressives on twitter blast her for working too much and neglecting her kids. Or that she is a mindless servant to her husband. Ha.

                          All these attacks seem pointless. Do they think they can convince republican senators not to vote for her?
                          How about the attacks on inter-racial adoption?

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69482

                            #1633
                            Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                            How about the attacks on inter-racial adoption?
                            Yeah, that is probably the worst of the worst.
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                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Eddie
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 8098

                              #1634
                              Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                              When will karma step in for all the things McConnell and Graham pontificated about when they backburnered Garland? The evening of November 3 would be nice, but I'm not counting on it.
                              How much of what we're seeing now is karma for Harry Reid? Karma is a never ending cycle, to be sure. And I have no doubt that the GOP will one day pay their due.

                              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                              Garland deserved a vote. So does Barrett. While McConnell et al said really stupid things to justify their behavior toward Garland, Democrats are showing their share of hypocrisy in singing different tunes then and now. Democrats are in a more defensible position, but two wrongs don't make a right. The right thing, then and now, is to allow a Supreme Court nominee a vote on the floor.
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Garland did get a vote (an unofficial one)... The GOP'ers controlling the senate voted not to vote.
                              This is dumb. I've heard the argument before, and it's weak. Have the balls to make the senators either vote yes or no - and answer for those votes. This whole "voted not to vote" thing is silly. That works for legislation just fine - and I'll accept it. Not for appointments that need to be confirmed or rejected.

                              For the record - I thought Garland should have gotten a vote too. And I think it's Trump's role to nominate a supreme court replacement for RBG - who should also get a vote.

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                              • swampfrog
                                Social Distance Warrior
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2267

                                #1635
                                Originally posted by wapiti View Post
                                How about the attacks on inter-racial adoption?
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                Yeah, that is probably the worst of the worst.
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