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  • BlueK
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 7167

    #316
    Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
    Looks like Texas got it right this time..

    Anthony found guilty of murder. That verdict came back pretty quick.

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    Also about the verdict coming in quick, the thing is it was not a complicated case as far as murder cases go. That didn't surprise me all that much. Essentially no contradicting pieces to consider and not that many pieces of evidence at all. There were several witnesses all of which said essentially the same things, even the ones called by the defense.

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    • dabrockster
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10898

      #317
      Originally posted by BlueK View Post

      Also about the verdict coming in quick, the thing is it was not a complicated case as far as murder cases go. That didn't surprise me all that much. Essentially no contradicting pieces to consider and not that many pieces of evidence at all. There were several witnesses all of which said essentially the same things, even the ones called by the defense.
      Do you think it was wise for him not to testify? I wondered if anything that could’ve helped the sentencing and number of years. If eh came off remorseful etc.

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      • BlueK
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 7167

        #318
        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

        Do you think it was wise for him not to testify? I wondered if anything that could’ve helped the sentencing and number of years. If eh came off remorseful etc.
        Yeah, I can see that possibility if he were to come across that way. My impression is that he's very immature and that his team probably thought he wouldn't be able to handle it in a way that would help increase the chance of an acquittal.

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        • BlueK
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 7167

          #319
          In Texas schools, abuse of children by teachers has been so bad recently that now the feds are getting involved. There are too many bad apples committing the misconduct, but the worse problem, IMO, is the seemingly pervasive culture among administrators of covering up and ignoring state laws requiring them to report these incidents to police, cps, and the Texas Education Agency which governs the state's school districts. This has led to "pass the trash," which means a district avoids reporting so the teacher can quietly move on and work at a different school or district without consequence and where they usually offend again. It's disgusting, and the public is getting fed up.


          North Texas law enforcement agencies announced "Project Safe Schools" Tuesday, an initiative they say will crack down on widespread child abuse at school districts.

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12295

            #320
            Does Texas allow for corporal punishment? If so that is insane and harmful.

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            • BlueK
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 7167

              #321
              Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              Does Texas allow for corporal punishment? If so that is insane and harmful.
              No, not legally. The main issue here I think is with the districts wanting to avoid bad publicity at all costs so they do anything they can to cover things up. Now it may finally be coming home to roost.

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              • Green Monstah
                Royal Rooter
                • Aug 2010
                • 13929

                #322
                Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                No, not legally. The main issue here I think is with the districts wanting to avoid bad publicity at all costs so they do anything they can to cover things up. Now it may finally be coming home to roost.
                Incorrect.

                School districts can elect to institute corporal punishment programs. If they do, parents must be allowed to opt out.

                This became a hot-button issue this week in Port Arthur ISD after a student athlete was paddled for no-showing for football practice and wearing the wrong uniform.
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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69536

                  #323
                  Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post

                  Incorrect.

                  School districts can elect to institute corporal punishment programs. If they do, parents must be allowed to opt out.

                  This became a hot-button issue this week in Port Arthur ISD after a student athlete was paddled for no-showing for football practice and wearing the wrong uniform.
                  That is wild. Wow.
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                  • PaloAltoCougar
                    Semper infra dignitatem
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 16921

                    #324
                    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post

                    Incorrect.

                    School districts can elect to institute corporal punishment programs. If they do, parents must be allowed to opt out.

                    This became a hot-button issue this week in Port Arthur ISD after a student athlete was paddled for no-showing for football practice and wearing the wrong uniform.
                    My 7th grade PE instructor, a devout Christian who led our town's Young Life program, paddled students for horseplay in the locker room (we showered everyday at the end of class). Late in the year, I nailed a friend (still is!) with a precise little towel snap. The teacher saw me, ushered me into his office, and using a solid oak paddle in the shape of a large hand, swatted my ass VERY hard. It left a red handprint on my buttocks that lasted a week or so. But then, this was 1965.

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                    • Clark Addison
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10298

                      #325
                      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

                      My 7th grade PE instructor, a devout Christian who led our town's Young Life program, paddled students for horseplay in the locker room (we showered everyday at the end of class). Late in the year, I nailed a friend (still is!) with a precise little towel snap. The teacher saw me, ushered me into his office, and using a solid oak paddle in the shape of a large hand, swatted my ass VERY hard. It left a red handprint on my buttocks that lasted a week or so. But then, this was 1965.
                      By the time I got to the first part of the second sentence I thought this was going to be a story for the ages. Bit of a letdown after that.

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                      • LVAllen
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 3242

                        #326
                        Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                        In Texas schools, abuse of children by teachers has been so bad recently that now the feds are getting involved. There are too many bad apples committing the misconduct, but the worse problem, IMO, is the seemingly pervasive culture among administrators of covering up and ignoring state laws requiring them to report these incidents to police, cps, and the Texas Education Agency which governs the state's school districts. This has led to "pass the trash," which means a district avoids reporting so the teacher can quietly move on and work at a different school or district without consequence and where they usually offend again. It's disgusting, and the public is getting fed up.


                        https://www.keranews.org/news/2026-0...hools-cover-up
                        The feds were already involved. Each teacher gets a fingerprint background check by the FBI. In the example given, a principal hired a special ed teacher with no criminal background who had previously been arrested and acquitted of allegations of indecency with a child.To the extent there were allegations of misconduct later, those should have absolutely been reported.

                        It is not at all clear how this translates into federal wire fraud charges.

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                        • PaloAltoCougar
                          Semper infra dignitatem
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 16921

                          #327
                          Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

                          By the time I got to the first part of the second sentence I thought this was going to be a story for the ages. Bit of a letdown after that.
                          A tidy summary of my life...

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12295

                            #328
                            Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post

                            Incorrect.

                            School districts can elect to institute corporal punishment programs. If they do, parents must be allowed to opt out.

                            This became a hot-button issue this week in Port Arthur ISD after a student athlete was paddled for no-showing for football practice and wearing the wrong uniform.
                            That's some crazy shit. A lot of data indicates that corporal punishment can yield short-term compliance but other methods are much more effective at long-term behavioral change.

                            The amount of people I've worked with who lament parents not being tough on kids like the good old days while lacking the ability to be emotionally healthy and functional is staggering.

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                            • BlueK
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 7167

                              #329
                              Originally posted by LVAllen View Post

                              The feds were already involved. Each teacher gets a fingerprint background check by the FBI. In the example given, a principal hired a special ed teacher with no criminal background who had previously been arrested and acquitted of allegations of indecency with a child.To the extent there were allegations of misconduct later, those should have absolutely been reported.

                              It is not at all clear how this translates into federal wire fraud charges.
                              Yeah, the article doesn't really explain how the wire fraud charges apply or which other federal laws apply to the districts' behavior that would cause them to lose federal funding or for administrators to be subject to civil or criminal penalties.

                              But as someone who has closely followed this issue for over a year, I think the move here for the US Attorney to lead a press conference to announce a joint project with state and local government and law enforcement to hold school districts accountable for following laws they've been routinely thumbing their noses at, and for outright deception, is pretty significant. It seems pretty obvious it was to put pressure on the districts to fix a huge problem they haven't shown interest in fixing. I think today it's probably been causing some admins to shit bricks, as they say -- especially the part about how they'd better come forward with any admissions of failure to report incidents over the past five years or face severe consequences.

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                              • LVAllen
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 3242

                                #330
                                Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                                Yeah, the article doesn't really explain how the wire fraud charges apply or which other federal laws apply to the districts' behavior that would cause them to lose federal funding or for administrators to be subject to civil or criminal penalties.

                                But as someone who has closely followed this issue for over a year, I think the move here for the US Attorney to lead a press conference to announce a joint project with state and local government and law enforcement to hold school districts accountable for following laws they've been routinely thumbing their noses at, and for outright deception, is pretty significant. It seems pretty obvious it was to put pressure on the districts to fix a huge problem they haven't shown interest in fixing. I think today it's probably been causing some admins to shit bricks, as they say -- especially the part about how they'd better come forward with any admissions of failure to report incidents over the past five years or face severe consequences.
                                If the DOJ wanted to bring a civil suit against the school district through OCR for systematic failures to protect special ed kids, I'd say go for it. That's what OCR is for, not for trying to hunt down trans kids or push anti-DEI bullshit. But criminal wire fraud? Really?

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