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    where I ride.

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...captured-video
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    “Why don’t they just cuff him and be done with it?” one of the men in the video asks. “They keep letting him get up and run away.”
    Because it's so easy to detain and cuff a grown man who isn't complying. I'm not saying the shooting was justified because I haven't seen the video or know any background information, but most of the comments by "Robbie" were kind of silly.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
      Because it's so easy to detain and cuff a grown man who isn't complying. I'm not saying the shooting was justified because I haven't seen the video or know any background information, but most of the comments by "Robbie" were kind of silly.
      Sounds like they shot a guy who got inside a patrol car and was grabbing for a gun. If ever there were a justified police shooting, this sounds like the dictionary definition.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
        Sounds like they shot a guy who got inside a patrol car and was grabbing for a gun. If ever there were a justified police shooting, this sounds like the dictionary definition.
        Watch the video. It is strange and it appears with the numbers of guys they should have been able to subdue him without killing him.

        They stated there is a gun inside and they feared he might reach for the gun. It was a bizarre event. In Nevada though, cops get a free ride mostly.
        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Topper View Post
          Watch the video. It is strange and it appears with the numbers of guys they should have been able to subdue him without killing him.

          They stated there is a gun inside and they feared he might reach for the gun. It was a bizarre event. In Nevada though, cops get a free ride mostly.
          Video isn't loading for me here so I'll try to find it later. How many police were trying to subdue him? Have you ever tried to subdue a grown man who was hell bent on getting free? It's not easy. If he has even slightly above average strength it can be quite a struggle. Didn't the article say they tazed him and he ripped the wires out? That's a sure sign the take down is not going to be easy.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Topper View Post
            Watch the video. It is strange and it appears with the numbers of guys they should have been able to subdue him without killing him.
            You say it appears they should have been able to subdue him. Do you think they were letting him go intentionally? If so, to what end?

            Were they hoping he might get to the patrol car, climb inside and lock the doors with a gun inside, so they could shoot him?
            I'm like LeBron James.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
              Video isn't loading for me here so I'll try to find it later. How many police were trying to subdue him? Have you ever tried to subdue a grown man who was hell bent on getting free? It's not easy. If he has even slightly above average strength it can be quite a struggle. Didn't the article say they tazed him and he ripped the wires out? That's a sure sign the take down is not going to be easy.
              I count four to five. He really isn't hell-bent and they had him on the ground at one point.
              "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                You say it appears they should have been able to subdue him. Do you think they were letting him go intentionally? If so, to what end?

                Were they hoping he might get to the patrol car, climb inside and lock the doors with a gun inside, so they could shoot him?
                They should have subdued him while he was on the ground. Watch it and you'll see what I mean. Again, we can't hear the interaction, but there is no way they should have allowed him to gain access to their vehicles. I forget how pro-police people are around here.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Topper View Post
                  They should have subdued him while he was on the ground. Watch it and you'll see what I mean. Again, we can't hear the interaction, but there is no way they should have allowed him to gain access to their vehicles. I forget how pro-police people are around here.
                  IMO, if there are "pro-police" folks here, they are in the minority. I'm pretty sure we have a thread on here dedicated to police brutality, but none dedicated to police heroics.
                  I'm like LeBron James.
                  -mpfunk

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                    IMO, if there are "pro-police" folks here, they are in the minority. I'm pretty sure we have a thread on here dedicated to police brutality, but none dedicated to police heroics.
                    Speaking of which, mods, please merge this with the The Police Brutality Thread

                    http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...utality-Thread
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                      IMO, if there are "pro-police" folks here, they are in the minority. I'm pretty sure we have a thread on here dedicated to police brutality, but none dedicated to police heroics.
                      This could be the first submission.

                      http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...=1#post1072427
                      Last edited by venkman; 02-18-2014, 10:20 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Wait. Does Topper live by me?! :mind blown:
                        I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
                          Wait. Does Topper live by me?! :mind blown:
                          I ride by your house every day and you don't wave.
                          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
                            Wait. Does Topper live by me?! :mind blown:
                            Originally posted by Topper View Post
                            I ride by your house every day and you don't wave.
                            You guys are probably riding past each other in the canyon.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                            • #15
                              This seems like an unnecessary shooting. The cop who left his doors open with loaded weapons inside played a large part in that man's death. I do not see why that men police officers couldn't have subdued that man.
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