Racial and ethnicity standards for neighborhoods...

[il Padrino Ute]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...neighborhoods/

Thoughts?

[Eddie]

So - we're talking about government forced (or at least encouraged) integration?

Sounds interesting.

I like the idea of more diversity in all neighborhoods. I think that could do the most towards helping combat racism in the future. Not sure how functional it is to actually attempt, however.

[Paperback Writer]

At issue is that all ethnic groups prefer to self segregate despite a social goal of diversity. We tend to want to live close to our own kind. And Mormons are no different.

But I agree with Eddie that neighborhood or school diversity probably does more good toward combating racism than anything else. I know it to be true with my own family.

It is something that federal and local government could encourage through the use of federal grants or property tax breaks. But it should go both ways. In other words, Whites living in Black, Hispanic, or Asian neighborhoods should receive the same incentives as minorities living in White neighborhoods. And it also brings into question a Mormon living in a Jewish neighborhood and vice-versa.

But I don't think it is something that government should try to score and grant incentives. With many things being equal, Whites prefer to live next to other Whites and Blacks with other Blacks. Actually, keeping score and publishing this data will make it easier for people to self segregate.

[Goatnapper'96]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...neighborhoods/

Thoughts?

I think the argument is bullshit - if that is really what HUD is trying to do. Government cannot socially re-engineer society. It will fail miserably and then the next generation of progressives will point to this ill founded tactic as the new cause of the problems that their new tactic is meant to fix. In the 70's the progressive social engineers tried bussing and other forms of forced integration and how many worked?

Housing is a function of economics and as more minorities improve their class status many will find themselves more comfortable in the neighborhoods with the better schools etc. Obviously exposure to those of other races, religions, ethnicities, sexual preferences, Ford vs Chevy, Polaris vs Skidoo, Army versus Navy or whatever else new bias or word for some other group being excluded is the soup of the day Flo, helps people to be less afraid/skeptical/bigoted towards that group. However, government is not going to effectively re-engineer society for that end. A man forced against his will is of the same opinion still...or something like that.

I tend to believe the long arm of the universe bends towards justice and in time this issues will be fixed.

So in essence I don't think it is good policy.

[Indy Coug]

Housing is a function of economics and as more minorities improve their class status many will find themselves more comfortable in the neighborhoods with the better schools etc.

This is correct. In the more racially diverse cities I've lived in, once a minority family becomes more financially successful, they move out of the ghetto and into suburbia with all of the white folk. It's not a race issue, it's the safety issue that accompanies impoverished neighborhoods.

[Bo Diddley]

At issue is that all ethnic groups prefer to self segregate despite a social goal of diversity. We tend to want to live close to our own kind. And Mormons are no different.

But I agree with Eddie that neighborhood or school diversity probably does more good toward combating racism than anything else. I know it to be true with my own family.

It is something that federal and local government could encourage through the use of federal grants or property tax breaks. But it should go both ways. In other words, Whites living in Black, Hispanic, or Asian neighborhoods should receive the same incentives as minorities living in White neighborhoods. And it also brings into question a Mormon living in a Jewish neighborhood and vice-versa.

But I don't think it is something that government should try to score and grant incentives. With many things being equal, Whites prefer to live next to other Whites and Blacks with other Blacks. Actually, keeping score and publishing this data will make it easier for people to self segregate.

We are in no position to spend money on any large scale social integration. We're broke.

[Moliere]

So - we're talking about government forced (or at least encouraged) integration?

Sounds interesting.

I like the idea of more diversity in all neighborhoods. I think that could do the most towards helping combat racism in the future. Not sure how functional it is to actually attempt, however.

Functionally it will be almost impossible to do and it would also seem unconstitutional (of course I'm not a lawyer so my analysis is probably way off).

[Pelado]

Functionally it will be almost impossible to do and it would also seem unconstitutional (of course I'm not a lawyer so my analysis is probably way off).

Not sure about the constitutionality of such a program, but what little I've heard about it doesn't sound legal or enforceable.