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  • BlueHair
    Boom Bitches!!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 2894

    #1

    Spanish Fork Windmills

    The following was taken of the Wasatch Wind website:

    Environmental Benefits

    Utah ranks 4th in the nation for pollutants emitted for every kilowatt hour of electricity produced. This is because 94% of all electricity generated in the state comes from coal plants. Since energy cannot be stored on the grid, anytime the turbines are producting electricity a mix of other fossil fuel generators are cut back. Therefore, the amount of pollutants that each wind turbine on the project offsets is significant. The project will provide over 55,000,000 kwh annually of electricity to the local grid equivalent to powering over 6500 homes on average. When the project is providing peak output which typically happens in the mornings, the output is sufficient to power over 19,000 homes. According to the EPA’s Emissions and Generation Resource Integrated Database http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/egrid/index.htm the following pollutants are the offsets from the project on an annual basis:

    • 87,994 lbs of sulfur dioxide
    • 241,996 lbs - nitrogen oxides
    • 115,886,452 lbs of carbon dioxide

    These pollutants are equivalent to the following:

    • 11,377 cars not driven
    • 705 tanker trucks of gasoline not used.
    • 122,240 barrels of oil not used
    • 6,746 households not using electricity
    • 1,347,826 seedlings planted and grown into trees.
    • 431 acres of forest preserved from deforestation

    To me, this is worth having to look at the windmills.
    Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks
  • Surfah
    Where's Wallace?
    • Nov 2008
    • 33726

    #2
    Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
    The following was taken of the Wasatch Wind website:

    Environmental Benefits

    Utah ranks 4th in the nation for pollutants emitted for every kilowatt hour of electricity produced. This is because 94% of all electricity generated in the state comes from coal plants. Since energy cannot be stored on the grid, anytime the turbines are producting electricity a mix of other fossil fuel generators are cut back. Therefore, the amount of pollutants that each wind turbine on the project offsets is significant. The project will provide over 55,000,000 kwh annually of electricity to the local grid equivalent to powering over 6500 homes on average. When the project is providing peak output which typically happens in the mornings, the output is sufficient to power over 19,000 homes. According to the EPA’s Emissions and Generation Resource Integrated Database http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/egrid/index.htm the following pollutants are the offsets from the project on an annual basis:

    • 87,994 lbs of sulfur dioxide
    • 241,996 lbs - nitrogen oxides
    • 115,886,452 lbs of carbon dioxide

    These pollutants are equivalent to the following:

    • 11,377 cars not driven
    • 705 tanker trucks of gasoline not used.
    • 122,240 barrels of oil not used
    • 6,746 households not using electricity
    • 1,347,826 seedlings planted and grown into trees.
    • 431 acres of forest preserved from deforestation

    To me, this is worth having to look at the windmills.
    I think the windmills are cool as you drive up out of the canyon.
    "Nobody listens to Turtle."
    -Turtle
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    • The Wankster
      It's not a tumor......
      • Dec 2008
      • 204

      #3
      I was with you on the list all the way to the deforestation of 431 Acres, at that point I have got to wonder what Coal fired power plants vs. Wind powered plants has anything to do with 431 acres of forest?

      Are they now assuming that we must use these 431 acres for the paper necessary to keep these plants paper products stocked?

      Utah doesn't have one power plant that is fired in any way shape or form by Forest produced energies, the closest would be the plant in davis county that is fired by garbage, maybe that is the tie?

      Certainly they aren't talking about carbon emissions causing 431 acres of deforestation? That's a stretch even for the greenest of greenies.
      Let's get on with the gettin' on....

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      • YOhio
        Hipster Mode
        • Nov 2008
        • 26165

        #4
        The windmills are definitely an eyesore, but they have a beauty in their own right. I'm in awe of the massive man-created machine that can harness the wind for productive use. That said, the Wasatch Wind product package you quoted reek of propaganda, heavy on prediction. The turbines have been in operation for at least a year now. I'd be interested in seeing the results thus far.

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        • BlueHair
          Boom Bitches!!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 2894

          #5
          Originally posted by The Wankster View Post
          I was with you on the list all the way to the deforestation of 431 Acres, at that point I have got to wonder what Coal fired power plants vs. Wind powered plants has anything to do with 431 acres of forest?

          Are they now assuming that we must use these 431 acres for the paper necessary to keep these plants paper products stocked?

          Utah doesn't have one power plant that is fired in any way shape or form by Forest produced energies, the closest would be the plant in davis county that is fired by garbage, maybe that is the tie?

          Certainly they aren't talking about carbon emissions causing 431 acres of deforestation? That's a stretch even for the greenest of greenies.
          I think they mean that the pollutants caused by dirty energy are the equivalent of having 431 acres of deforestation, not that they cause deforestation. In other words, replacing the dirty energy with clean energy has the same benefit to the environment (in regards to pollution) as 431 acres of forest.
          Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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          • BlueHair
            Boom Bitches!!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 2894

            #6
            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            The windmills are definitely an eyesore, but they have a beauty in their own right. I'm in awe of the massive man-created machine that can harness the wind for productive use. That said, the Wasatch Wind product package you quoted reek of propaganda, heavy on prediction. The turbines have been in operation for at least a year now. I'd be interested in seeing the results thus far.
            Things never work out as well as planned. Still, if they are anywhere near the 55 GWH it would be well worth it. My wife's grandmother lives near there, and she can't open her windows at night because pictures blow off the wall.
            Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69529

              #7
              Of course, we all know why there is so much wind in SF Canyon.

              Price sucks!
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • BlueHair
                Boom Bitches!!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 2894

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Of course, we all know why there is so much wind in SF Canyon.

                Price sucks!
                And blows!
                Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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                • YOhio
                  Hipster Mode
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26165

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Of course, we all know why there is so much wind in SF Canyon.

                  Price sucks!
                  You will forever regret making this post.

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #10
                    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    I'm in awe of the massive man-created machine that can harness the wind for productive use.
                    Me, too. I stand all amazed.

                    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69529

                      #11
                      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                      You will forever regret making this post.
                      But I have it on good authority that Dayton is awesome.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • LiveCoug
                        LA Ute loves me
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 18486

                        #12
                        Just drove past these mostrosities yesterday, on the way home from Moab. I think they look cool. Reminded me of the area just west of Bakersfield near Tehachapi but on a much smaller scale. Oh, and Price sucks. Wellington, on the other hand, now that is a sweet town.

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                        • kccougar
                          9262
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7020

                          #13
                          Monday I was on a construction site that will be the future site of 97 wind towers. That will be a site to behold.
                          "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                          • cougarhut
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 9

                            #14
                            I thought they were going to be a huge eyesore when they were starting to go up. They have really grown on me. I don't live too far from them and enjoy seeing them in full swing in the morning.

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                            • KillerDog
                              a.k.a. K-dog
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4196

                              #15
                              Windmills seem like a third rate technology to me. Solar and wind energy seem ineffective as renewable energy sources when compared to hydro, biomass, and geothermal.

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